U.S. governors urge Turks and Caicos to release Americans as Florida woman becomes 5th tourist arrested for ammo in luggage

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U.S. governors urge Turks and Caicos to release Americans as Florida woman becomes 5th tourist arrested for ammo in luggage - Lemmy.World

Four rounds of ammo? Give them a slap on the wrist and send them home. If it was a box of ammo I’d feel differently. How you get ammo in the luggage is beyond me, but at 4 it was obviously an accident, they are obviously not trying to smuggle weapons in at that point.
Their country, their rules. One bullet can still kill someone. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
So can a fork. They didn’t travel with a gun apparently. Going to have to go shit down every Lowe’s that sells fertilizer, because you could rig it up and make it explode… Like a bullet without a gun.
What the fuck are you on about? Are people traveling with an entire Lowe’s warehouse in their fucking luggage?
Why the fuck would you bring ammo to begin with?
They traveled with their normal bag they go around with in regular life. Lesson: NEVER TRAVEL WITH THE BAG YOU CARRY AROUND DAILY because you will forget what’s in there.

That’s good advice, especially when traveling internationally.

Also when traveling to another country, always check the state department’s travel advisory for your destination(s).

travel.state.gov/…/TurksandCaicosIslands.html

Obviously this is the US state department, but it is still good info and I’d assume other countries have something similar.

Turks and Caicos Islands International Travel Information

Turks and Caicos Islands international travel information and Travel Advisory

Yo the State Department page for Iceland is fucking fire. It warns about pickpockets by telling travelers to be cognizant of “getting jostled”, especially in the capital on weekends because everyone gets drunk then and the jostling risk is higher. What a delightful warning. I’m convinced the pickpockets in Iceland are all the fox version of Robin Hood in Iceland.

Some of the State Department pages go hard as fuck though. Take a look at the one for Russia and watch any sympathy for Britney Grinier or that fucking Army dude evaporate into thin air. Libya’s page is wild and so is Syria’s, which actually says “yeah fam, we shut that fucking embassy down. if you’re idiot ass needs help hit up the Czechs”. Burma (Myanmar) goes pretty hard too, in addition to the risk of kidnapping, wrongful detention, arbitrary enforcement of local laws, etc., there’s the “your prolly gonna step on some uxo and splatter your fucking intestines on your travel partner my dude. stop. don’t go here.”

Russia Travel Advisory

Or just freaking empty it and only pack what you need. Its hardly difficult.
And yet, this keeps happening so it may actually be difficult.

Difficult. To check your travel bags for ammo.

How low do we set the bar before we blame the individuals?

I’ve never discovered ammunition loose in a bag or pocket. It’s been used or put away safely. Period. Why? Because duh.

Where’d I say that they weren’t responsible? I’m saying I can see how it could happen. It’s unclear why this bothers you.

Where’d anyone mention responsibility?

Checking your bag for shit inside it before you put more shit inside it is like the easiest thing to do. Some of the people mentioned in the article have children. If they’ve managed to not leave their kid in the car on a 100° day, or back up over their kids when leaving the house, they can manage to check their bags before the pack them.

Or don’t carry guns wherever you go like a fanatical vigilante?! You Americans created a problem that doesn’t exist anywhere else in the world.
They didn’t carry a gun with them. This is like getting arrested in Singapore because you didn’t realize you had gum on your purse from last year. Kinda dumb. If they chew the gum and make a mess with it … then it would make sense to charge them.
Still isn’t a valid excuse.
I agree that it’s not. But adjusting what you do can protect you from this sort of thing.
Not carrying ammo on an international flight should not require adjusting. It’s common fucking sense.
And yet how many stories like this have we seen this year? A state legislator was arrested over this as well.
Again, common sense. These people were dumb enough to bring ammo on an international flight. These are the consequences.
I’m going to guess that you dislike signs that warn of danger. Or warnings about keeping plastic bags away from babies. Those exist for exactly this reason. Warnings about being careful not to leave children in hot cars exist for this exact reason.
You keep ammo in your fucking purse?
I carry a pocket knife and a BIC lighter for utility needs. I have nearly forgotten to take out the pocket knife before leaving for the airport. I have also seen other stories like this, so I decided that my courier bag for travel is not the same one I use daily.
That’s fair - I’ve nearly lost good pocket knives in the same way… but it’s a long way from pocket knives to ammunition.
I don’t have or want a gun. I think they are stupid. I’m just saying that I get how it could happen.
When you go into someone’s house, you follow their rules.

Yes and when you punish someone you use a reasonable level of punishment.

Take the ammo and put them on the next flight home. And tell them next time the punishment will be more severe

If the situation occurred here in the states, the person would also be facing jail time. So your logic makes no sense.

That’s absolutely what we do when people carry cocaine into America. We take it, escort them to the border, and firmly tell them not to do it again.

I don’t know if you were aware how ridiculous your statement was and were arguing in bad faith but if not… please do realize that smuggling is generally heavily punished.

How careless do you have to be to just have ammo lying around, unknown to you? Here’s a thought, T&C says they’ll release them if they lose their right to own a gun in the US?

If anything they’ll be celebrated by pro gun groups:

The National Rifle Association on Thursday urged the U.S. State Department to “use every means necessary to return U.S. citizens home to America.”

I’m guessing. These ppl are white
nra are literally gonna get us into a war with the united kingdom aren’t they?
NRA: “Help us, government that we constantly talk about as an evil entity trying to take away our rights!”
If those governors will do the same for weed, deal.
Fuck no. First rule of travelling is to check your fucking luggage. When you check your bags in you are asked if you packed it yourself and if everything in it is within the rules. It’s no one else’s fault two people are too fucking lazy or stupid to double check before checking their bags in.