The Fediverse seems thrilled with Jews leaving the platform through continued widespread antisemitism.
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@serge The label antisemitism has recently been used to address topics that I'd not see as antisemitism like asking for a ceasefire in Gaza, like MSF , Oxfam and the UN do.
This inflationary use of the term means to me that the term looses its meaning to me.
When you say widespread antisemitism in the Fediverse, I personally have not seen a lot of antisemitic posts from the people I follow.
If you consider Oxfam and MSF as antisemitic, then I would say this term is politically used.
Indeed, nothing tells people that they're unsafe more than when they say "There's a safety issue" for them to be told "There's no problem. It's all in your head, and you're probably doing ti with malicious intent."
People like this are the problem.
@JamesRhodes @serge Your post is the only only answer to mine that is not just hatred without content.
I understand antisemitism as rejection of jews just because they are jews, not for what a concrete person has done.
I have seen enough antisemitism in my life. From my grandma, from friends, from pupils writing graffiti...
Yesterday evening when following new posts I mindfully scanned for antisemitism and I didn't even see a single post I'd consider antisemitic.
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@JamesRhodes @serge There was a post about police violence against the students protesting in the U.S. I'm convinced there are severe antisemites among the protesters, but there are also jews protesting.
There was a post about Lily Greenberg Call resigning because she sees the way the Biden administration treats the Gaza conflict as contributing to genocide. But she is a jew.
There was a post showing an image of thousands of people in Tel Aviv demonstrating against the Netanjahu government.2/x
@JamesRhodes @serge So either
* We don't talk about the same posts or
* We don't talk about the same thing or
* I'm not able to detect the antisemitism you see in some posts.
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@JamesRhodes @serge Most likely we are not discussing the same posts. It heavily depends upon whom you are following, since mastodon does not use a timeline algorithm to feed very "successfull" post from unfollowed people to me.
My mastodon instance is that of the green party, only accessible to members of the green party. Aggegated feeds like https://gruene.social/explore contain little antisemitism.
I'm sure I could find antisemitism in the fediverse if I'd actively search for it.
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@JamesRhodes @serge Or we are not discussing the same thing. When Antonio Gutteres asked for a ceasefire in the security council, some jews framed this as antisemitism. Like here:
https://www.juedische-allgemeine.de/israel/warum-un-generalsekretaer-guterres-antisemitisch-handelt/
MSF asks also for an immediate ceasefire and also brought the matter before the security council:
https://www.aerzte-ohne-grenzen.de/presse/gaza-un-weltsicherheitsrat-forderung-waffenstillstand
Oxfam asks for an immediate ceasefire:
Considering all these organizations as antisemites is an interpretation I intentionally don't share. 5/x
@JamesRhodes @serge And there could be the case that there is antisemitism that I don't recognize due to missing knowledge.
For example I found this interesting:
https://www.bpb.de/themen/antisemitismus/dossier-antisemitismus/328693/antisemitismus-in-der-bds-kampagne/
Especially the part about UN-Resolution 194. This is not flattering for neither the UN, the Arab states nor Israel.
I'm sure that there are other similar ways of hiding a conflict before an untrained eye.
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@JamesRhodes @serge And now about the answers to my first post in this thread: I've hardly ever seen so much hatred in the Fediverse as in these replies.
This is a highly polarized conflict, causing people to react with hatred in ways that are not helpful.
7/7
You understand this exact argument was used as the basis for the creation of the word antisemitism in place of Judenhas, with the intention of delineating what Jews called Judenhas and the obviously respectable, scientifically, and morally acceptable antisemitism?
It's just that, in hindsight, what was being called the "respectable" antisemitism was the same as or worse than the "vulgar" Judenhas. But I'm sure this time, it's really just the Jews misusing the word... definitely...
@MJ @serge You are right in that jews decide when they want to name something antisemitism.
But the initial post asks for support for his position.
"Not Jewish and I'm doing something to stop it (please specify what in the comments)"
And I wonder what the position he is asking to support is exactly. All the hatred I got in response is not very helpful here.
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