jeffwRomney Says He’d ‘Have Immediately Pardoned’ Trump If He Were Biden
theprogressivist And there ya go groveling to your orange master. What a spineless bitch.
someguy3Just when you thought he wasn’t half bad.
Anybody who thought that was half stupid.
What? Anyway, that would never happen.
Yeah, who just pardons a criminal ex-presi- wait… never mind.
Flying SquidMaybe the ex-president shouldn’t have been such a criminal, Mitt.
I actually had an idea that Biden could pardon Trump, then Trump couldn’t plead the 5th when called as a witness against anyone else. So he would have the choice of truthful answers or perjury.
garretbleSeeing how this current judge has been handling him with kid gloves I wouldn’t expect anything bad to happen to him even if he did perjure himself.
Notice how he is minding every p and a, crossing every t and dotting every i?
That’s so that, when he’s done, there will be nothing to appeal.
They will still try, but try and achieve are so different they don’t even share a letter.
Notice how he is minding every p and a
Pints and asses? 🤨
Ford was, based on the behavior of the Reagan, W Bush, and Trump administrations, entirely wrong to pardon Nixon. There is no reason to repeat his mistake.
And this guy is supposed to be the “moderate” GOP. Crooks and liars all the way down their bones.
Remember: no Republicans are arguing Trump didn’t break the law.
They’re arguing he shouldn’t be punished for it.
Yea I think he has to be found guilty of the crime to be pardoned, right?
No. Nixon was never charged, but he was pardoned.
I think you have to admit guilt? Which is bullshit because the purpose of a pardon isnt to get guilty people off but to act as a check against judicial power. I’m not sure though.
Nope.
A pardon stops all punishment from the judicial system. You don’t have to plead guilty and criminal proceedings stop. A pardon further undoes any legal handicap (for example, you can own firearms again).
That said, if you accept a pardon you can’t plead the fifth when it comes to details related to the crime you’ve committed.
There’s also a commutation, which is weaker than a pardon. Instead of having the crime fully forgiven you are simply let out of jail with the understanding you committed the crime and must face follow up consequences (like not being able to own firearms).
Finally, there are also conditional pardons. Those are ones where the president could impose a “you must plead guilty” style rule before the pardon can be applied. He could also apply a rule that says “you must perform 10 jumping jacks”.
Pardon powers are some of the most broad we have in the US
Thank you.
Thank you.
Maybe, maybe not
About the only limitation is you can’t pardon for future crimes.
Yeah, you really want Robert’s SCOTUS to rule on that?
Roberts'
Damnit, that’s what I typed but I guess it got autocorrected. Thanks!
I think you’re remembering some instance where a pardon can expose the recipient to civil liability. Or at least it was theorized it might…
Bannon, stone or one of them.
Bruh I don’t know what I remember
They’re arguing he shouldn’t be punished for it
They are really arguing that all Republicans shouldn’t be punished but if you aren’t in the club you get the full blast of the law.
Peppycitolaw blast
It’s what justice craves.
yes it’s called Fascism
Biden can’t pardon state crimes.
Can’t take the snivelling, manipulative, lying scumbag out of the republican, I guess.
To be fair, he’s probably being too honest with this one
Wow, this is an impressively stupid take.
Doesn't there have to be a conviction in order for there to be a pardon? Or is that a myth?
That’s what I was going to say. Pretty sure it’s true. I read something a while ago about people who had been pardoned, not realizing that it’s an admission of guilt. I think a person can even turn down a pardon on that basis, but I’m not positive on that last part.
None of that is true. Nixon was never charged, let alone convicted of any crimes. And pardons can be completely general and not even specify an explicit crime at all. President Ford’s pardon of Nixon, for example, was for “all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974” So, no. A charges or convictions are not required, nor even a crime at all.
I see, but the guilt IS still a thing.
What about the person denying the pardon part?
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Nixon got a full pardon and I don’t think he was ever charged.
Fuck off and die
All I did was post an article, you big meanie
circuitfarmerAh yes. Fewer consequences for the rich is what we need.
Mitt Romney is an idiot
elbuchoWell, not that we needed one, but I really appreciate you giving us a reminder for why we should never ever make you president, Mittens. It’s very thoughtful of you.
Gradually_AdjustingDon’t worry, at some point he’ll say one normal thing and people will remark on how he’s so reasonable compared to the others.
It is true, though. If he were to run for president, he’d be the best candidate the Republican party has put forward in 2 decades. And he’s still a gigantic piece of shit.
The smallest coil of shit turned out onto the chests of voters in decades!
You certainly have a way with words, my friend.
Flame wars must be, while we defend our lives against a butthole who would devour all; but I do not love the quip for its sharpness, nor the meme for its oddly specific irony, nor the troll for his lulz; I love only that which they defend
There’s a Netflix documentary called “Mitt” that follows him and his family throughout his 2012 run. I took two things away:
- It helped humanize Mitt a lot, such as loving a beat up, old pair of winter gloves
- I’m glad he was never President, and should never be President
He has a punch card that Moscow Mitch gave him. He gets to say 1 reasonable thing every 3 months and punch the card every time. Once the card is full he gets his Russian check for doing his duty to make the party look normal and reasonable without ever having to vote reasonably. If he actually votes reasonably he has to give the card back and can’t get his check.
If I were Mitt I would immediately transfer everything I own to rockandsock.
It’s really easy to say what you’d hypothetically do in someone else’s place isn’t it?
Todd BonzalezYou didn’t even run, bitch.
Welcome to Lemmy, new account!
Oh wow, a week old account talking shit about Republicans. How sus.
I guess we shouldn’t allow any more new people to start commenting.
I have contributed more comments to the community in my 8 days here than this clown has in 7 months.
Have a cookie.
We absolutely should!
How is welcoming someone for being new a bad thing?
harkShut up romney.