The Fermi Paradox says we should have contacted alien life by now

The Great Filter says we haven't because a civilization's capacity for self-destruction increases to certainty over time

I thought for us it would be an exotic technology or scientific discovery that instantly destroys on a large scale

Nope. Far more depressing and mundane

We simply watched ourselves destroy our climate and lacked the will to do anything about it because someone was making money off it

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2024/may/08/hopeless-and-broken-why-the-worlds-top-climate-scientists-are-in-despair

‘Hopeless and broken’: why the world’s top climate scientists are in despair

Exclusive: Survey of hundreds of experts reveals harrowing picture of future, but they warn climate fight must not be abandoned

The Guardian

@benroyce yeah, such interesting philosophical questions.

Is there a size limit to a functional representative society. At some point, this small percent of the group is big enough to sustain itself and drifts away. Even a cohesive society seems destined eventually to splinter.

Oh, and there's nukes lying around 😳

@pixelpusher220

That's the solution! Nuke the Earth and plunge us into Nuclear winter!

I'm joking, but I'm crying inside, because we may do it anyway

(And no, armchair scientists, that will not solve the CO2 problem)

@benroyce another fun dystopian future is the Kessler Syndrome/Cascade. That one a good chunk of people alive today will likely experience.

@benroyce Turns out that "capitalism" is the Great Filter.

Once we invented a system to justify and reinforce greed, destruction was guaranteed.

@benroyce Or, it turns out that they communicate using a technology we haven't discovered yet. Kind of like a how we couldn't pick up radio signals until the radio was invented.

@benroyce

The aliens have been watching us. Decided. "not a place to visit". Maybe we can sell them on "disaster tourism".

@benroyce oh yeah, this is probably a common reason for the Fermi Paradox, "Greed"

It's a big old lonely universe 😔

@benroyce This is the question we should all be asking ourselves: "Everyone was at the end of their rope, asking: what the fuck do we have to do to get through to people how bad this really is?”

Climate, or more accurately our ecosystem, needs to be the world's religion and our profit/livelihoods, somehow, at least for now. We need to be writing more effective sermons and keener business plans.

@janisf

what are you talking about?

whatever

more important: did you see this funny meme on tiktok?

(/s)

@benroyce My kid is 19. I totally just blew past this like I heard it this morning on the way to school.

What our kids won't forgive us for is failing to teach them how to survive. They've already started. It's how they cope. We need to grab the kids whose parents are forcing them to do extracurriculars and model for them what effectiveness looks like. School volunteerism is free access, and there's a school within biking distance of most of us.

@benroyce I know it’s tempting, and venting is important, but doomerism is also catching.

Do what you can, shout about what you can’t, look after yourself (within your sustainable limits). Etc.

@MxVerda most importantly: fight for society. imagining life without it or past it is a self-delusion

@benroyce I found myself in a lot of doom-and-gloom recently due to climate change and how miserable global inaction makes me feel. Sought out a book that looks at our progress of reversing climate change in a more positive light while not denying the obvious crisis.
Did make me feel a lot less depressed, thoroughly recommend.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/jan/04/not-the-end-of-the-world-by-hannah-ritchie-review-an-optimists-guide-to-the-climate-crisis

Not the End of the World by Hannah Ritchie review – an optimist’s guide to the climate crisis

This book is full of pragmatic, hopeful solutions to environmental challenges. But is there something missing?

The Guardian

@shved I ordered this last week! It's sitting on my TBR pile

@benroyce

AI may be to blame for our failure to make contact with alien civilisations

AI may be destroying civilisations before they get a chance to explore space properly.

The Conversation

@benroyce

"I thought for us it would be an exotic technology or scientific discovery that instantly destroys on a large scale"

Ice-nine. You're channeling Vonnegut.

As bad as the climate crisis is, we have not yet missed the opportunity to go out with a bang!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice-nine

Ice-nine - Wikipedia

@benroyce The term I keep hearing is suicide by apathy.
When you're in a possibly inextricable hole, the first thing to do is stop digging it deeper.
@benroyce
The Great Filter, in my opinion, is exactly what it says it is: a filter.
Any species sufficiently advanced to create tools to manipulate its environment sufficiently to put it into ecological overshoot, is forced to either learn how to limit its excess or drives itself to extinction in short order.
Its very much a choice, and our next potential evolutionary step depends on our choice, or the choices the most powerful of us make.
We will get exactly what we, as a species, choose.