inb4_FoundTheVeganEither ya understand why most women pick the đ» or you are the đ».
LEXI understand why women pick the bear, but I also understand why men are insulted. Itâs not that hard to empathetic is it? Maybe Iâm wrong.
DessertStormsI also understand why men are insulted.
It is literally the rage they express when rejected that is WHY we would be more scared to run in to one in the woods than we would a bear.
The fact that they're getting "insulted" at all, derailing the entire conversation and making it about them and how they are really the victims, is more proof that they don't give a shit about the actual experiences of violence and abuse that we are subjected to by them, only about their own egos.
Literally all they have to do is fucking listen, they are not the ones being harmed in any way shape or form (the reputation of men is already in the shit and it won't improve unless they work to improve it amongst themselves, but if anything, their reactions are only making it worse), and them being able to frame and prioritise themselves as the ones being being harmed (by ignoring or minimising the legitimate fears and traumatic experiences of millions of women) is just another of many demonstrations of just how privileged they are.
NeatoThis is spot on. The men arguing against this know deep down they are the type women are afraid of. And instead of dealing with that and trying to change themselves, they react badly and cement it instead.
Youâre making alot of assumptions about the people disagreeing. My co-parent has been talking about this bear tiktok since it first showed up, how disappointed she has been with friends saying they would pick a bear, how harmful the discussion revolving around it is to young men, how 4th wave feminism leans more to reactionary politics instead of building towards material change. She is a socialist political organizer and every single woman in her party is pretty demoralized by this whole thing as it says alot about the publics political consciousness. If ~~half the population ~~ more than half the population judging by the men in this thread agreeing to pick the bear, see strangers as a dangerous other where does that leave us to join together to make meaningful change in society?
Yeah i asked my very feminist gf and she laughed assuming it was a Jordan Peterson gotcha, like âyeah obviously no one picks the bear but that doesnât remove centuries of systemic gender inequalityâŠâ then ten minutes later she was saying âoh God, what is wrong with people? Why are they like this?!â
Then I got a very enjoyable hour long rant about performative feminism as a way of avoiding engaging with real issues that require personal effort and self-reflection. That liberal feminism has become a way of reverting to the status quo, and that thought terminating cliches are so popular because people donât want a better world if it comes with responsibilities, and, well then we did get sidetracked laughing at guys who went wild and made it clear that you really donât want to be stuck in a forest with them if not just because of the whining.
Also we went down a rabbit hole of psycho women that youâre probably better off picking the bear than - describing their six different guns and shoot first policy, or one saying she doesnât slow down if she sees people crossing the road, even on a crossing, because it could be a trap. People are all sorta of crazy.
Honestly this is one of those times Iâd love to live in a multiverse so I can go see how slight variations in this question change responses, like if itâd been human or bear, black man or bear, etc⊠I think the performative answers and responses would be very different.
also I want to know mountain lion or bear, people seriously underestimate mountain lions, also bear or adverse weather conditions, bear or having to drunk contaminated water because you didnât bring enough, bear or not having navigation tools and knowledge how to use them⊠these are the real killers. Would you rather have a twisted ankle in the woods with a bear or with a man? There are so many fascinating ways to view and change the question, it could become the internets next trolly problem.