VerbTELEVISIONS ARE JUST SCREENS
they dont need to be smart
make them dumb
make everything dumb immediately
they dont need to be smart
make them dumb
make everything dumb immediately
Mister Moo 🐮@SarraceniaWilds I've never allowed a television to connect to the internet and I never will.
Dan GoodinSo y'all do without streaming then? What do you watch?
The 500 Hats of LambdaCalculus@dangoodin @MisterMoo @SarraceniaWilds DVDs and Blu-Rays, VHS tapes and LaserDiscs. Or build a Plex or Jellyfin server and make a Kodi or OSMC box, connect the two, and build your own library.
Need media? Reject modernity; embrace tradition! 
@LambdaCalculus @MisterMoo @SarraceniaWilds
So many things wrong with what y'all are advising:
Do you use debit cards? if so, marketers are scooping up tons more data than from your purchases than they are from streaming.
Telling folks that the only way they can be safe on online is to do with without major platforms that provide tons more viewing choices is not a good way to go. It makes security unnecessarily hard and depriving.
There was a time when DVDs and completely booked the traditional means. Shaming people for using smart TVs is unnecessarily alarmist and not at all constructive.
@dangoodin @LambdaCalculus @SarraceniaWilds I don't care for the advertising practices of smart TV vendors (https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2021/3/10/22323790/lg-oled-tv-commercials-content-store), nor do I care to use apps built into my TV which will gradually get slower and lose compatibility over time, nor do I appreciate remote controls themselves being turned into ads for streaming providers. That doesn't mean I don't stream. I'm just more conscientious about what devices I use to stream.
@MisterMoo @LambdaCalculus @SarraceniaWilds
Let me guess: you use a Roku because you think it's safer than a smart TV?
@dangoodin @MisterMoo @SarraceniaWilds The Roku is not part of my smart TV. I would *never* buy a TV with a Roku built into it. It's a physically separate device, that, at any given time, I can easily just disconnect and put away.
Buying a smart TV is still a far more dangerous avenue; you don't have nearly as much control because the components are baked in. Short of opening the TV and physically ripping the components out (which is way past most average consumers), your hands are tied.
We let computers and such devices get way too comfortable in our lives, and it's really disgusting that you can hardly even get a non-smart TV nowadays, and even when you find one, the prices tend to be worse.
Telling people they're safer buying a smart TV just reeks of irresponsibility to me. At least the separate Roku device can be unplugged and removed. The smart TV can't.
Bob K Mertz 
@LambdaCalculus
I have an APC surge strip that had a master outlet and then switched outlets. The master outlet senses a higher power draw so when I turn on my TV it gives power to my Roku and when my TV gets powered off it kills the power to my Roku. I don't want that thing talking on my network all the time.
@dangoodin @MisterMoo @SarraceniaWilds
I have an APC surge strip that had a master outlet and then switched outlets. The master outlet senses a higher power draw so when I turn on my TV it gives power to my Roku and when my TV gets powered off it kills the power to my Roku. I don't want that thing talking on my network all the time.
@dangoodin @MisterMoo @SarraceniaWilds