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here's a new science #rant on #aging :)

as far as biology can tell, aging is best understood, #philosophically at least, as part of a #developmental continuum between #embryogenesis & death, which is pre-programmed somehow. therefore, we cannot in principle place precise "boundaries" or "cutoffs" between development, adulthood, and seniority. In strict #biological terms, they are all part of one continuous #program. a complete explanation of aging therefore requires complete #devbio knowledge

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So, if you're on board with what's stated above, then please consider the following: decyphering the (unknown) "aging program", if you will, entails a two-level challenge: one, we must (with some sufficient degree of correctness) infer what the language of this aging program is, in terms of its programmatic structure, and its corresponding evolutionary/biological/biophysical mechanisms. two, we must then again infer what the content of this program is, which is analogous to decrypting a cypher
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i.e., we have a decryption problem wrapped inside of an inverse (system identification) problem: we don't know the language, the rules, or the message. all we have are whatever biological insights we can gain from our rather short-timescale observations using rather perceptually-limited instrumentation and cognitive abilities. as is often the case in biology, as in cosmology, it is the vastness of the unknown that makes any attempt at a complete explanation extremely error-prone. like infinity!
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people often rush into the aging research field eager to decrypt the message of the program, as if the language and logic of the program were already somehow reasonably-well described. that is the pitfall of aging-related research: somehow human tendencies are biased towards REALLY wanting to believe that our perceptions are somehow sufficient to paint a "reasonably complete" picture of how things might work in reality (without any evidence of this). so people want aging to be simple to explain.
Apr 20, 2024 at 7:18amWeb
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OK, so if decrypting aging is analogous to cracking a cipher, then what good does it do to apply your code-cracking techniques to a language whose grammer is completely alien to anything you've ever seen before? it probably does not do that much good. to me, this analogy more or less explains why aging-related research is moving far slower than some of the hype-driven claims might lead you to believe. fundamentally, developmental biology is so mysterious to us, that we cannot infer its rules.
Show threadkatch wreckApr 20, 2024
in a nutshell: until we understand what aging is really for, we cannot understand how it really works.