"Tesla warns owners that opening their doors or windows while installing a software update could damage the vehicle".
What do you even say, aside from "never get into a Tesla".
https://gizmodo.com/tesla-software-update-traps-woman-in-hot-car-1851407234
@mhoye Gotta love my car deciding to not work because it wanted to pull a forced update
How do you even explain this to your boss? "I was late to work because my car had to update" is the most painful thing I ever could have to understand
@monorailtimes It also took twice as long as originally expected (24 minutes originally; 40 in the end). So lots of little failures.
As the article points out, other platforms requiring occupants to get out before an update like that happens is the better solution.
@monorailtimes @mhoye @ktnjared
there is a manual door override on all doors. front seats is easy (it is just a handle in front of the window controls), back seat is convoluted. in the back it is really shitty (you have to pull out the rubber insert in the door pocket, under there is a pullstrap). the article states she did not want to use it.
when people actually burn up in their burning teslas, it is because they did not familiarize themselves with their car, or are incapacitated.
@monorailtimes @mhoye @ktnjared
that said, i agree with the article. the wording of teslas messages is bad. the thing that MIGHT get damaged when opening the door unpowered is the rubber gasket that holds the window to the car. in older softwares, it was advised not to exit the car using the emergency handles because it might damage the rubber, now the car lowers the window when the emergency is pulled, if it still has power. again, not the best design.
@monorailtimes @mhoye @ktnjared
also, i find it pretty weird to stay in the car if the conditions become life-threatening. similar thing happend to some rich woman who drove into her own pond and decided to sink and drown with the car, using her phone to call for help instead of exiting right away.
but part of this is due to teslas quality problems. the gear selector (and indicator stick) sometimes do not register pulls (on my model 3), if you dont recognize it, you can go backwards. /o\
@fb @monorailtimes @ktnjared It is never OK to blame the user, ever, and the older I get, the more sympathetic I feel for people put in these situations, the more anger I have for the people who put them there and the less patience I have for the smug jerks saying well clearly it's partly the victim's fault.
Fuck everything about that.
This is one hundred fucking percent the responsibility of Tesla's designers and engineers.
There is a naked power imbalance here. Pick a side.
@mhoye @monorailtimes @ktnjared
i can blame both. the user for bad decision making and tesla for bad design. i dont need to pick a side. i can drive a tesla and hate the company and elon at the same time. crazy, i know.
@mhoye @monorailtimes @ktnjared
i did not give tesla money. i bought a used one. and frankly, i do not see who does a better ev that sucks less. the others are just less capable and/or more expensive. the car works for my daily needs, i dont have and use its computer features. as said, i can use a companys product while not agreeing on everything they do. i would have issues buying a new one, actively giving elmo money to abuse.
i dont know you, but i think we all are intelligent enough to realize that we do not live in an ideal world. everything is a compromise in one way or the other. i wish someone else would make products that are 100% fair, open and all that, yet i have to run apple stuff and microsoft stuff besides linux stuff. i do not proofread linux code i run. i trust apple more than i trust microsoft, yet i hate apple for their closedness, while their accessibility stuff is good. the world sucks.
if people ask, i tell them what works (driving), what does not (everything else). i think elmo has turned psychotic and evil, yet i can admire some of the stuff spacex does, and i like tesla simplifying cars, but not their work safety and culture. i am far away from being a cultist or fanboy of any company. i just do not think in black and white. is it better to buy a car from a chinese company? i doubt it. a german company? that brought us hypercorrupt dieselgate? nope.
@fb @monorailtimes @mhoye @ktnjared
> when people actually burn up in their burning teslas, it is because they did not familiarize themselves with their car, or are incapacitated.
Ok, the design of a Tesla is fundamentally ableist. Good to confirm it.
@dpnash @monorailtimes @mhoye @ktnjared
i prefer "bad design".
using a 2-ton machine without knowing how to stop it/turn it off/get out of it is not the best idea. i do not like calling that requirement "ableist".
@mhoye Muskrat is so visionary that he took a car obsessed society and created a car (and ... well, what for lack of a better term we'll call a truck) that no one in it wants to drive.
What genius.
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