"Tesla warns owners that opening their doors or windows while installing a software update could damage the vehicle".

What do you even say, aside from "never get into a Tesla".

https://gizmodo.com/tesla-software-update-traps-woman-in-hot-car-1851407234

Tesla Software Update Traps TikToker Inside 115-Degree Car

Tesla warns owners that opening their doors or windows while installing a software update could damage the vehicle, so she stayed put.

Gizmodo
@mhoye @ktnjared isn’t there a manual door release??

@monorailtimes @mhoye @ktnjared

there is a manual door override on all doors. front seats is easy (it is just a handle in front of the window controls), back seat is convoluted. in the back it is really shitty (you have to pull out the rubber insert in the door pocket, under there is a pullstrap). the article states she did not want to use it.

when people actually burn up in their burning teslas, it is because they did not familiarize themselves with their car, or are incapacitated.

@monorailtimes @mhoye @ktnjared

that said, i agree with the article. the wording of teslas messages is bad. the thing that MIGHT get damaged when opening the door unpowered is the rubber gasket that holds the window to the car. in older softwares, it was advised not to exit the car using the emergency handles because it might damage the rubber, now the car lowers the window when the emergency is pulled, if it still has power. again, not the best design.

@monorailtimes @mhoye @ktnjared

also, i find it pretty weird to stay in the car if the conditions become life-threatening. similar thing happend to some rich woman who drove into her own pond and decided to sink and drown with the car, using her phone to call for help instead of exiting right away.

but part of this is due to teslas quality problems. the gear selector (and indicator stick) sometimes do not register pulls (on my model 3), if you dont recognize it, you can go backwards. /o\

@fb @monorailtimes @ktnjared It is never OK to blame the user, ever, and the older I get, the more sympathetic I feel for people put in these situations, the more anger I have for the people who put them there and the less patience I have for the smug jerks saying well clearly it's partly the victim's fault.

Fuck everything about that.

This is one hundred fucking percent the responsibility of Tesla's designers and engineers.

There is a naked power imbalance here. Pick a side.

@mhoye @fb @ktnjared uh, yeah I’m not gonna roast inside a Tesla just cause the manual said to wait it out, sorry, have some common sense and self preservation, both things can be bad in this situation. This is like the episode of The Office where Michael Scott drives into the lake cause the GPS told him it was the route and it was clearly a lake. “Maybe it knows more than I do!”
@mhoye Yes, this, absolutely. If you tell someone "you can be in this miserable, uncomfortable situation OR you can pay $50,000 to get out of it", the vast majority of people will say "oh, it's just some discomfort, I'll be fine" and in *most* cases they will, in fact, be fine. But a significant percentage will misjudge the situation and/or their own condition and there's simply no excuse for having put them in this position in the first place. x_x

@mhoye @monorailtimes @ktnjared

i can blame both. the user for bad decision making and tesla for bad design. i dont need to pick a side. i can drive a tesla and hate the company and elon at the same time. crazy, i know.

@fb @monorailtimes @ktnjared you have them a bucket of money and continue to trust and rely on their products? C’mon, quit lying to yourself.

@mhoye @monorailtimes @ktnjared

i did not give tesla money. i bought a used one. and frankly, i do not see who does a better ev that sucks less. the others are just less capable and/or more expensive. the car works for my daily needs, i dont have and use its computer features. as said, i can use a companys product while not agreeing on everything they do. i would have issues buying a new one, actively giving elmo money to abuse.

@mhoye

i dont know you, but i think we all are intelligent enough to realize that we do not live in an ideal world. everything is a compromise in one way or the other. i wish someone else would make products that are 100% fair, open and all that, yet i have to run apple stuff and microsoft stuff besides linux stuff. i do not proofread linux code i run. i trust apple more than i trust microsoft, yet i hate apple for their closedness, while their accessibility stuff is good. the world sucks.

@mhoye

if people ask, i tell them what works (driving), what does not (everything else). i think elmo has turned psychotic and evil, yet i can admire some of the stuff spacex does, and i like tesla simplifying cars, but not their work safety and culture. i am far away from being a cultist or fanboy of any company. i just do not think in black and white. is it better to buy a car from a chinese company? i doubt it. a german company? that brought us hypercorrupt dieselgate? nope.

@fb @mhoye @ktnjared a perfectly well reasoned take, not sure why we have to pick a side