I’m afraid to say this out loud, but I’ve always wondered why there’s an unwritten social contract that taggers don’t tag cars. Ignoring that it would be the absolute worst… like, why don’t they?

Which is to say, I wonder what the first taggable consumer vehicle will be — and why will it be the Cybertruck

@cabel definitely tagging of delivery trucks here in SF

@cabel In all the interviews I've read with taggers—and I've read a fair amount, since I've been fascinated with graffiti for a while—the reason given is (1) a lot of them recognize that it would be a despicable thing to do, and (2) tagging things like cars/personal residences/churches etc would trigger public outrage and more attention from law enforcement.

(Some freight train vandals put masking tape over important info—car ID, safety decals—prior to painting, for similar reasons.)

@cabel I have no meaningful data to back this up, but I have thought about it in the past and decided that cars feel like individual property…like something the taggers themselves could own—unlike buildings, trains, etc., which feel like institutional property.
@agiletortoise @cabel Taggers have figured out that if they leave the functional info uncovered on a freight train car, the owner won’t bother painting over the graffiti. I’ve seen some pretty cool art roll by while waiting at a railroad crossing
@cabel i really like the idea of cybertruck tagging becoming a banksy-like thing :D

@cabel I wonder if it's something to do with the perception of public/private property.

Tagging an underpass or street furniture would feel more like a victimless crime because it's harder to put a face to the owner.

I live in London and you'd find graffiti on trains and busses even when there isn't a large flat surface, but because they are public transport the culprits don't feel any personalised responsibility.
Most taggers are more vain attention seekers than deliberate criminals

@cabel of course when someone is angry/criminalised enough to target a specific person cars are by no means left out but the vandalism tends to be less 'artistic' and more about criminal damage.
@cabel Tagging cars sounds like a great idea. 🎨
But keep your hands of my bike please. ✨
@cabel its always complicated. have you seen the docu "Bomb It"? personal vs corporate property. many things that are tagged are forced upon us and tagging is a form of showing ' I was here' and a kick back against that.
@cabel In addition to all other very good points, location is sometimes part of the point.
Counter point: trains and subways (more back-when).
@cabel ooh taggers could sandblast designs into CyBERtrUCk
@cabel they had four of them parked outside the Met Museum on Friday, and they were just begging for spray paint.
@cabel I've had my car window tagged, so not sure that counts, since it was reasonably easy to scrap it off.
@cabel Taggers have been tagging box trucks forever.
@robotdeathsquad for sure, I chose the word “cars” very specifically 😛
@cabel is the texture resolution on those even high enough for that

@cabel A few possibilities...

Some tagging is for the purpose of "claiming" a geographic area, so tagging a car would defeat the purpose of that.

Tagging a billboard, or boxcar, or large blank wall makes your message much more visible than if it was on the side of a parked car.

Tagging a wall that can easily be painted over might be misdemeanor vandalism whereas a car that would be more costly to repaint might be felony vandalism.

@cabel I saw a cyber truck on a quiet block two blocks off the Oakland waterfront, two weeks before launch. Have never been so tempted to pay a few teens to tag it.

@cabel My personal minivan, which was also my home at the time, got completely blasted in LA in 2009

I think it was just some neighborhood kid who hadn’t learned the code yet

The parts that were on the window scraped off easily with a razor blade

The parts on the body didn’t as easily

@cabel Tagging some spot under a bridge or whatever allows for the artist to express themself in a visible place without harming anyone. Usually the goal of tagging isn't to mess up someone's day.
@cabel Easier to find a dirty van and write "cleen me" in the dirt