FuckFuckNo. 🤦‍♀️

I just want a search engine that works. I have zero need for a godawful "AI" hallucinating mansplainer in my results. Just… no.

Time to move off of DDG. What else is out there?

Edit: yes, it seems to be for real:
https://www.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/1adxgy4/give_duckduckgo_ai_chat_a_spin/

#DuckDuckGo #AI

@rysiek I use @Mojeek but sadly some results for me are bit underwhelming, then I switch to qwant which I find ok but they did have some sketchy things going on from what I remember (misinformation, remembered wrong, they only had partnerships from Microsoft and Huawei which are eh but def not rly super sketchy bad thing).
@MarkAssPandi can you expand on the sketchy Qwant things please?
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Attached: 1 image Ok, #Qwant probably wants to be removed from my search engines. It works (only for one action) by clicking "I have disabled ...", but.. hum.. maybe as a secondary engine for comparisons.

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@katzenberger @rysiek @MarkAssPandi All search engines make money from advertising. You just expect them to be 100% free to use and ad-free and cover their expenses how?

I don't think its unreasonable for Qwant to ask to show you ads, especially if they are implemented in a privacy-preserving non-tracking way. The alternative would be to pay a subscription for Qwant.

Elsewhere, Mojeek is nice, but they also introduced AI recently.

https://blog.mojeek.com/2024/04/mojeek-search-summary.html

Mojeek Search Summaries

If you take from the web, you should give back. Search engines like Google, Bing and...

@matt @katzenberger @rysiek @MarkAssPandi

For what it's worth, if we have to do the "lesser evils" thing, I don't see how dropping Mojeek (which has its own index) due to LLM in favor of what will almost inevitably be something using Google or Bing's index is a net positive.

Really the next step is to consider smaller independent indexes (Stract, Right Dao, Alexandria, Yep, etc.) but it seems most folks consider those not usable yet. (personally I disagree, but that's its own can of worms).

@jeruyyap Yuppp. I’ve personally been quite happy with Mojeek and considering I’m making AI shit at work it would be very hypocritical of me to stop using them for that.

I’m just trying to state facts, and not lump my personal opinion in here. 🙂

@matt @jeruyyap yeah, I am now considering @Mojeek but I am very wary of moving to another search engine that is buying into the AI hype train. Sigh.

@rysiek @matt @Mojeek

If you're interested in other options then @Seirdy did an excellent piece on the topic that pretty much covers what's out there for now:
https://seirdy.one/posts/2021/03/10/search-engines-with-own-indexes/

A look at search engines with their own indexes

A cursory review of all the non-metasearch, indexing search engines I have been able to find.

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@jeruyyap thank you, that is very useful!

@matt @Mojeek @Seirdy