Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦Apr 5, 2024

FuckFuckNo. 🤦‍♀️

I just want a search engine that works. I have zero need for a godawful "AI" hallucinating mansplainer in my results. Just… no.

Time to move off of DDG. What else is out there?

Edit: yes, it seems to be for real:
https://www.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/1adxgy4/give_duckduckgo_ai_chat_a_spin/

#DuckDuckGo #AI

Show threadMarkAssPandiApr 5, 2024
@rysiek I use @Mojeek but sadly some results for me are bit underwhelming, then I switch to qwant which I find ok but they did have some sketchy things going on from what I remember (misinformation, remembered wrong, they only had partnerships from Microsoft and Huawei which are eh but def not rly super sketchy bad thing).
Show threadMichał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦Apr 5, 2024
@MarkAssPandi can you expand on the sketchy Qwant things please?
Show threadkatzenbergerApr 5, 2024

@rysiek

https://social.tchncs.de/@erAck/112214516965898047

@MarkAssPandi

erAck (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image Ok, #Qwant probably wants to be removed from my search engines. It works (only for one action) by clicking "I have disabled ...", but.. hum.. maybe as a secondary engine for comparisons.

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Show threadMattApr 5, 2024

@katzenberger @rysiek @MarkAssPandi All search engines make money from advertising. You just expect them to be 100% free to use and ad-free and cover their expenses how?

I don't think its unreasonable for Qwant to ask to show you ads, especially if they are implemented in a privacy-preserving non-tracking way. The alternative would be to pay a subscription for Qwant.

Elsewhere, Mojeek is nice, but they also introduced AI recently.

https://blog.mojeek.com/2024/04/mojeek-search-summary.html

Mojeek Search Summaries

If you take from the web, you should give back. Search engines like Google, Bing and...

Show threadMarkAssPandiApr 5, 2024
@matt @katzenberger @rysiek It would be nice to have paid service like Kagi but without AI and their take on brave ngl
Show threadMattApr 5, 2024

@MarkAssPandi @rysiek @katzenberger

Someone should update the comparison table on Wikipedia to help people find a good search engine.

🔴 Google = AI / Ads / Tracking
🔴 Bing = AI / Ads / Tracking
🔴 Brave = Cryptocurrency / AI / Anti-LGBT*
🟠 DuckDuckGo = Ads / AI
🟠 Kagi = AI
🟠 Mojeek = Ads / AI
🟠 You.com = Ads / AI
🟡 Qwant = Ads
🟡 Startpage = Ads
🟡 Searx = Complicated
🟢 ???

* Brave CEO has previously financially supported anti-gay marriage law campaigns

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_search_engines

List of search engines: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

Show threadErlendApr 5, 2024
@matt @MarkAssPandi @rysiek @katzenberger FWIW, you can turn off AI in Kagi:
Show threadMarkAssPandiApr 5, 2024
@havn @matt @rysiek @katzenberger I think people more don't like that they did it in the first place, not that they can't turn it off, y'know, ethics and stuff
Show threadErlendApr 5, 2024

@MarkAssPandi @matt @rysiek @katzenberger (Answering you as well here, @melgu 🙂 )

Hehe, yeah I get that - hence the FWIW.
(Maybe it's not worth much. 😅) (1/3)

Show threadErlend

I'm a bit torn on Kagi: I don't like some of the stuff they do (I love neither AI or Brave), but I _do_ love that there's an ad-free search engine that gives me legitimately better results than Google, and stuff like the Small Web initiative (https://blog.kagi.com/small-web).

So I guess I've landed on “_dabling_ with AI not being a deal-breaker, if there's enough stuff to weigh up for up”. But I have no problem with others reaching a different conclusion. (2/3)

Kagi Blog - Kagi Small Web

As a part of our ongoing pursuit to humanize the web, we are pleased to announce the launch of the Kagi Small Web initiative. What is Kagi Small Web? To begin with, while there is no...

Apr 5, 2024 at 3:14pmWeb
Show threadErlendApr 5, 2024
(However, I _did_ stop using Arc because they lean so hard into AI (and in an extra unethical way, IMO), even though I still think it's the best browser, heh.) (3/3)