I am still getting hate mail for my blog post, this time from a neighbor. She was so angry it took her a few days to calm down enough to write to me (in all caps!)

(I shut down comments yesterday)

When I wrote analysis for the Washington Post, I sometimes got angry email from MAGA people.

I did get a memorable letter from a librarian in Tennessee who was enraged at how I portrayed Andrew Jackson in one of my books.

But this has never happened.

I think it's interesting.

@Teri_Kanefield Sounds like she’s feeling called out and not liking it!

@queenofnewyork I get it.

I think when I wrote the Misinformation-Outrage cycle, even though I started with that Yankee analogy, people still felt comfortable. They thought I didn't mean them.

I this comes from the switch I made from talking people off the ledge by giving them facts to saying, "Stay off the damned ledge. You are a victim of a for-profit rage machine."

Nobody likes being told that.

@Teri_Kanefield It surprises me to a large extent because I do not like the rage machine. I disconnect semi-regularly from the news because I cannot handle it. I guess we’re all wired differently!

@queenofnewyork

From what I understand, it is very pleasurable to watch hours of MSNBC. One friend told me he enjoys it, but now he shuts it off when he starts feeling angry.

I think the anger is also pleasurable because of the Us v. Them mentality. They want to land blows on the enemy.

It brings people down to a base level.

@Teri_Kanefield @queenofnewyork I don’t watch any cable news, or even clips on the internet. I agree with your read on rage merchants and that every echo chamber has their own at this point. That said, I also know that Romney-McDaniel has been pushing election denialism for years and has only stopped now because she got pushed out of her position -- not due to any kind of personal epiphany. As a news consumer, why should I see her as a source of nuance?

@cmasone @queenofnewyork

Nobody is saying you should. This is the point people missed from my blog post.

Given who she is, and given the way she talks she could never possibly appear on an MSNBC talk show. The hosts were right. The execs were wrong.

But this is because of the nature of those talk shows. They are not news or fact based.

The real problem for a talk show or interview isn't that she makes stuff up, it's that she makes up the wrong stuff.

@cmasone @queenofnewyork

One thing that really annoyed people (I think) was that I put a left-wing pundits making up stuff (and being wrong) next to a right-wing example.

I did that to show that conspiracy theories are acceptable on MSNBC, but the whole point of a partisan pundit (partisan = speaks for a cause, pundit = offers opinions) is that they have to please the audience (partisan) with their opinions or the show won't work.

See why I pissed off MSNBC viewers?

@cmasone @queenofnewyork

Here is the funny thing: I said all of this in my series, the Misinformation-outrage cycle, but people felt comfortable becasue they didn't realize I was talking about them, even though I started with that "there are no Yankee's here" anedcote. Nobody thinks it's them.

@Teri_Kanefield @queenofnewyork indeed. I read and appreciated those pieces. My point, I think, is that setting aside all the MSNBC considerations she’s still an inappropriate hire for a news agency. She spent years knowingly advocating a lie for partisan gain, and didn’t choose to leave the job that required her to do so. It undermines the credibly of any call she makes for people to leave the MAGA echo chamber

@cmasone @queenofnewyork

My quibble here is that MSNBC is not a news agency. The talk show hosts are not news reporters.

News reporters have different needs. They confirm stories. This is why actual news reporters are dismayed by what happened.

Why does Ronna Daniel lose credibility for her lies, while Larry Tribe loses no credibility for being wrong almost all the time. Because she tells the wrong kind of lies.

And because they need entertainers. She wouldn't be right at all.

@Teri_Kanefield I apologize for not being clear, but I’m explicitly not talking about MSNBC. I’m talking about her participation in news reporting for NBC, which is what they initially reached out to her about, according to reports.
I only know Lawrence tribe from reading your posts, and indeed he sounds like he should have lost all credibility ages ago. But he’s a pundit on MSBNC, which is explicitly not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about news reporting at NBC.

@cmasone

She would not be "reporting" for NBC.

She would be a source for NBC. She has information about the inside of the RNC and the people involved which would be helpful to people gathering stories.

She would be of use to reporters. She would not be a reporter.

There is a difference.

(I thought I explained this, but I may not have done a good job.)

@Teri_Kanefield @cmasone no, you're wrong. There are right and wrong Republicans to bridge the gap, and she is not one of the right ones. She perpetuates lies, gives false narratives, and sells straight propaganda. There is no point in hearing what she has to say. Prove me wrong.

@CrittyCat

I will prove you wrong. First, you will have to do a lot of reading.

First read the entire series I have pinned called the Misinformation-Outrage Cycle.

Then read this week's blog post for more examples.

When you come back we will agree on this: There is no point hearing what Ronna McDaniels has to say. There is also no point hearing what many of the MSNBC contributors, hosts, and legal experts say because they, too, give false narratives and sell straight propagnada.

@Teri_Kanefield @cmasone thanks for agreeing with me. Have a pleasant day.
@Teri_Kanefield @cmasone @queenofnewyork Larry Tribe is wrong a lot, but he isn't trying to replace a democracy with a dictatorship.