Some insight into what happened in the minutes before the Key Bridge collapsed. https://x.com/cfishman/status/1772966665531084836?s=20
(((Charles Fishman))) 💧 (@cfishman) on X

Again, a moment to pause & appreciate the cool professionalism of those in & around the Key Bridge at 1:24 am Tuesday. Ship’s pilot radios in that ship has lost steerage & will hit bridge. Someone (maritime control?) transmits urgent alert to Maryland/Balt police dispatch… —>

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@JamesWNeal

I’ve done govt work(software dev). Most are people toiling to do a good job.

People hate regulation until their deck collapses or they eat tainted food.

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Thank you very much for this real insight catch, chunk of reality and understanding. Hat tipped. Top notch. Reboost the post I comment on. Best. Pulitzer.

@JamesWNeal This doesn't even get into the regulations (e.g. limits on the size of ships that can cross under the bridge during peak travel times) that helped make sure this disaster wasn't even worse. 6 dead, billions of dollars wasted, but still a triumph of good governance and governmental systems.

@ted The deep state, what the MAGA crowd hates, are the people making their lives possible, keeping the safe and the country successful. These folks.

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Sure, of course somebody's going to delve into their backgrounds, citizenship, etc., because that's what *some* Americans do - but meanwhile these are the people who we rely on to fill our potholes and in this case some of them died on the job. (AP) The victims, who were part of a construction crew fixing potholes on the bridge, were from Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, Butler said. https://apnews.com/article/baltimore-key-bridge-collapse-03-27-2024-6a95340e5daeff6551fc999d23feb278

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The obfuscation of responsibility, ownership, & liability in shipping is alarming.

The airline industry is a close 2nd.

Imagine operating a truck like this:

Cargo owned by 1 entity. Truck owned by a 2nd, leased to a 3rd, speedometer & steering wheel leased & maintained by a 4th, truck driver subcontracted at bottom dollar prices from a 5th, & each element insured separately, each registered & regulated in a different country.

The Kidd bridge lawsuits will last decades.

@Npars01 @JamesWNeal That "truck operating" scenario is EXACTLY how the British passenger rail network operates 500 tonne trains with 300 passengers routinely running at 125mph.

Nationalize the railways!

(It's also how most airlines handle capacity shortfalls via wet leasing.)

@cstross @Npars01 @JamesWNeal suspect quite a lot of actual trucks work that way too...

@cstross @Npars01 @JamesWNeal By all means, nationalize the railways.

Then abolish limited liability, for everyone and in all things.

@cstross Not quite: the underlying infrastructure is all Network Rail and anyone using it has to play by their rules, with pretty much unlimited penalties for breaking them. (Unlike those malware-infected Polish locomotives that we heard about recently: /that/ company needs to be taken away from its owners and the culprits permanently banned.) UK Rail is effectively nationalised and getting closer to the target.
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Reminds me of the incident on a gulf oil platform a few years back.
@JamesWNeal isn't it that the workers on the bridge were also migrants? Not just any person taking care of the infra of their own city, but people that went miles away north for a better life at the price of their own life
JamesWNeal (@[email protected])

Sure, of course somebody's going to delve into their backgrounds, citizenship, etc., because that's what *some* Americans do - but meanwhile these are the people who we rely on to fill our potholes and in this case some of them died on the job. (AP) The victims, who were part of a construction crew fixing potholes on the bridge, were from Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, Butler said. https://apnews.com/article/baltimore-key-bridge-collapse-03-27-2024-6a95340e5daeff6551fc999d23feb278

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@JamesWNeal Do you have a direct link to that thread?
(((Charles Fishman))) 💧 (@cfishman) on X

Again, a moment to pause & appreciate the cool professionalism of those in & around the Key Bridge at 1:24 am Tuesday. Ship’s pilot radios in that ship has lost steerage & will hit bridge. Someone (maritime control?) transmits urgent alert to Maryland/Balt police dispatch… —>

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(((Charles Fishman))) 💧 (@cfishman) on X

Again, a moment to pause & appreciate the cool professionalism of those in & around the Key Bridge at 1:24 am Tuesday. Ship’s pilot radios in that ship has lost steerage & will hit bridge. Someone (maritime control?) transmits urgent alert to Maryland/Balt police dispatch… —>

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@JamesWNeal "Maybe not a college degree or a 6-figure salary among them..."

No, probably not a 6-figure *salary*, but many may take home 6 figures with Overtime. Worth every penny...

@JamesWNeal Yeah. It may sound like a small thing, but the procedures worked. It's usually easy to miss it when they work. Unfortunately, there would be no Hollywood hero-less movie on people doing what they were trained to do. https://elk.zone/hachyderm.io/@tymwol/112171996387600001
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One thing strikes about the Baltimore Bridge collapse if you listen through the police radio recordings. There is a malfunctioning ship heading to the bridge, ok, so the closest police cars are dispatched. The voices of the policemen sound routine, not a big deal, they closed the traffic. If they didn't, it could have been a much bigger catastrophe. Not a superhero, nothing fancy or dramatic, yet the boring procedures saved lives. As they usually do. https://youtu.be/xzOvImnlHFc?si=8WYpxY-tKXfLTWb5

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@JamesWNeal There is still something I demand to know: Why and how was the Dali deemed seaworthy by the N.Y. Coast Guard just last year when the ship can barely stay afloat?
@adrianmorales Not sure what you're referencing here. I did a search and came up with this incident. This what you're talking about? If so, given that was in 2016 I would think any repairs that would have been needed to assure it was seaworthy was done some time ago. Do you have more current info?

@JamesWNeal From CNN: 《Dali ship briefly held in Chile last year over propulsion issue, Chilean Navy says. An inspector found that the pressure gauges for the vessel’s heating system were “unreadable," and it was held at the Port of San Antonio on June 27, 2023, a navy spokesperson said Tuesday night.》

Were the repairs done in earnest? Or superficially to pass inspection?

@adrianmorales Thanks. Does "heating system" = "propulsion issue?" "The ship was briefly held at the Port of San Antonio in Chile on June 27, 2023, when an inspector found that the pressure gauges for the vessel’s heating system were 'unreadable,' a spokesperson for the Chilean Navy said." Without knowing what "unreadable" means, I'm left to assume whatever needed to be done didn't take much time, based on "briefly." If they're talking about old, fogged, analog gauges, swap them out?
@JamesWNeal Heroes, every single one.
@JamesWNeal as a night shift emergency worker it’s rare for me to feel seen. Thanks for this. Those night shifties deserve all the praise. 🏅
@hillarygayle You're welcome, of course, but it's the OP who really deserves the credit. Unfortunately, far as I know, he's not on Mastodon.