I still adore this screenshot.

Also, some interesting @thunderbird trivia: In 2004, blazing fast internet access wasn't nearly as widespread as it is now, so Mozilla offered to send installation CD-ROMs to users for $5.95.

#WindowsXP #Firefox #Thunderbird #History

@killyourfm @thunderbird

Internet access was" limited" by bandwidth, 56k is slow compared to 300 meg download speeds.

Connections could also go sideways, ruining a 600Meg download that took 2 hours, only to be useless.

@kevinrns @killyourfm @thunderbird and was billed by the minute! so that download cost real money and that failed attempt was expensive and annoying!
@manawyrm I still have vivid, painful memories of "huge" failed downloads back in the day. I totally forgot that some ISPs billed by the minute!

@killyourfm over here, your ISP _and_ your phone provider billed by the minute :<
that was annoying. quickly got the first download manager tools that could resume downloads.

edonkey was also pretty nice (well, mostly for illicit stuff) but the download mechanism was pretty robust and could resume/survive a broken connection.

yeah, that first 768kBit/s line (much later) was a real win!

@manawyrm I was over here using Limewire and Kazaa like a peasant. πŸ˜‚
@killyourfm i still have a t-shirt with the donkey here somewhere 😹
it's very, very worn down after all these years :D

@manawyrm @killyourfm

Seeding torrents of large files is still a charitable thing to do, 20% of the US DOES NOT HAVE BROADBAND. Is it 30% ?

Biden is spending billions to guarantee broadband.

@kevinrns @killyourfm Yeah, most of germany still uses copper DSL... it's eh.. well.

@manawyrm @killyourfm

YIKES! Seriously?

@kevinrns @killyourfm Yup!

http://emvg.energie-und-management.de/filestore/newsimgorg/Statista-Grafiken/Diverse2023/statistic_id3174_breitbandanschluesse-in-deutschland-nach-anschlussart-bis-2022.orig.pdf

(sorry for the german language file, but eh)

HFC is another name for cable/DOCSIS.
FttH/FttB is Fiber
Sonstiges is Other
and the Y-axis is Millions of users

So yes, DSL is very much the default.

@manawyrm @kevinrns @killyourfm But German DSL means quite decent broadband with speeds you usually need in your every day life. Even when my parents switched to fiber, they ordered the same speed as they had had with the DSL connection before. So there is nothing wrong with DSL being the default in Germany IMO. It's rather a problem that DSL isn't offered everywhere where you have telephone copper cables. We could have broadband internet everywhere.
@kevinrns @manawyrm @killyourfm awerage in all of Germany, I am not surprised. And I myself use 50 MBit/s, it's absolutely fine, don't know why people would need 1000 MBit/s.

@ditol @manawyrm @killyourfm

That is a tech history famous phrase.

"When we set the upper limit of PC-DOS at 640K, we thought nobody would ever need that much memory."
β€” William Gates, chairman of Microsoft

@kevinrns @manawyrm @killyourfm I am old enough to remember this meme (before there was such a word). ;)
@killyourfm @thunderbird That era of Mozilla's branding still rocks.

@MultimediaMage @thunderbird I miss so many things about that era of OS and software development in general.

Mainly, COLOR and personality in the icons.

@killyourfm @thunderbird i miss Winxp, the theme, the 56k modems, this era when i had to carry a ton of floppy disks in my bag to save the genesis roms downloaded from my school network ( no internet at home).
Internet in the 2000's: you are in the middle of an infinite warehouse with all the stuffs you want to discover and tons of more.
Internet nowadays: you're in the store, the warehouse behind is locked and you only have access to the crappy promotional stuffs in front of the casher.
@killyourfm @thunderbird
I didn't know it was called Bliss. I thought of it as Teletubbies.
@killyourfm @thunderbird I remember installing those and feeling like I'd gotten away with something. ❀️
@killyourfm @thunderbird I still think that era was pretty good
@killyourfm @thunderbird I totally remember in my first couple of weeks working in tech support at an ISP and someone told me about Phoenix, and it had TABS! Plus it was distributed as a binary so I could just download it and run it without admin access on our Windows 2000 work PCs. Part of the benefit was with dial-up at home I could open a few things up in tabs to load up in the background.
@killyourfm @thunderbird Huh, the setup art for both programs would fit in today. It looks nice and modern... ​​
@radmin @thunderbird They felt ahead of their time back then (to me, anyway)
@killyourfm This is totally the Fediverse equivalent of your mom sharing your baby pictures - and we are 100% here for it! 🐣 🀣
@thunderbird @killyourfm
WAIT A SECOND....
This is just you replying to yourself isn't it?
@DenJohn HAHA! Ok, I've been known to do that... but this time it was @communiteatime who runs the Thunderbird accounts alongside me.
@killyourfm @DenJohn It was me! I am clearly still trying to remember to sign my posts πŸ˜‚