I still adore this screenshot.

Also, some interesting @thunderbird trivia: In 2004, blazing fast internet access wasn't nearly as widespread as it is now, so Mozilla offered to send installation CD-ROMs to users for $5.95.

#WindowsXP #Firefox #Thunderbird #History

@killyourfm @thunderbird

Internet access was" limited" by bandwidth, 56k is slow compared to 300 meg download speeds.

Connections could also go sideways, ruining a 600Meg download that took 2 hours, only to be useless.

@kevinrns @killyourfm @thunderbird and was billed by the minute! so that download cost real money and that failed attempt was expensive and annoying!
@manawyrm I still have vivid, painful memories of "huge" failed downloads back in the day. I totally forgot that some ISPs billed by the minute!

@killyourfm over here, your ISP _and_ your phone provider billed by the minute :<
that was annoying. quickly got the first download manager tools that could resume downloads.

edonkey was also pretty nice (well, mostly for illicit stuff) but the download mechanism was pretty robust and could resume/survive a broken connection.

yeah, that first 768kBit/s line (much later) was a real win!

@manawyrm @killyourfm

Seeding torrents of large files is still a charitable thing to do, 20% of the US DOES NOT HAVE BROADBAND. Is it 30% ?

Biden is spending billions to guarantee broadband.

@kevinrns @killyourfm Yeah, most of germany still uses copper DSL... it's eh.. well.

@manawyrm @killyourfm

YIKES! Seriously?

@kevinrns @killyourfm Yup!

http://emvg.energie-und-management.de/filestore/newsimgorg/Statista-Grafiken/Diverse2023/statistic_id3174_breitbandanschluesse-in-deutschland-nach-anschlussart-bis-2022.orig.pdf

(sorry for the german language file, but eh)

HFC is another name for cable/DOCSIS.
FttH/FttB is Fiber
Sonstiges is Other
and the Y-axis is Millions of users

So yes, DSL is very much the default.

@manawyrm @kevinrns @killyourfm But German DSL means quite decent broadband with speeds you usually need in your every day life. Even when my parents switched to fiber, they ordered the same speed as they had had with the DSL connection before. So there is nothing wrong with DSL being the default in Germany IMO. It's rather a problem that DSL isn't offered everywhere where you have telephone copper cables. We could have broadband internet everywhere.
@kevinrns @manawyrm @killyourfm awerage in all of Germany, I am not surprised. And I myself use 50 MBit/s, it's absolutely fine, don't know why people would need 1000 MBit/s.

@ditol @manawyrm @killyourfm

That is a tech history famous phrase.

"When we set the upper limit of PC-DOS at 640K, we thought nobody would ever need that much memory."
— William Gates, chairman of Microsoft

@kevinrns @manawyrm @killyourfm I am old enough to remember this meme (before there was such a word). ;)