Lauren Weinstein
Matt Blaze@lauren I'm not sure I understand the objection. Why should I care, as a reader, what platform someone I follow uses to post, or, as a poster, what platform someone who wants to follow me reads me on?
@mattblaze That you don't understand is why Zuck and friends are getting such a laugh.
@lauren Yes, you're right. I don't understand. I'm not trying to be difficult. I honestly don't understand!
Kyle Memoir 🍉🐧Does it help if someone reminds you these are platforms run by Nazi sympathizers and other varieties of fascist?
Or are you being deliberately obtuse?
@f800gecko @lauren Should I conclude you don't have any way of explaining without being deliberately insulting?
I'm sure I'm missing something. But I'm not stupid in general. So what am I missing?
kolya@mattblaze
You're just missing some ideological fear and hatred, which Facebook has accumulated not undeservedly.
@f800gecko @lauren
You're just missing some ideological fear and hatred, which Facebook has accumulated not undeservedly.
@f800gecko @lauren
@kolya @mattblaze @f800gecko Or to put it another way, why would ANYONE trust Meta given their history?
@kolya @f800gecko @lauren I get that there are ample reasons to mistrust Facebook (which is why I don't personally use it). But I don't see how this is different from any other federated site run by sketchy entities (of which there are already plenty).
@mattblaze @kolya @f800gecko Please name the federated sites operating on a significant for-profit basis. Not talking about just trying to cover costs plus a bit. I mean ads, the whole works. Like Meta.
@lauren @kolya @f800gecko I don't know. I don't keep track of them. But I know there are federated sites run by a variety of entities, many with policies and ideologies I disagree with. And mostly, I don't notice. I don't see how this is different.
I'm not trying to be difficult. At two of your followers have called me stupid for not seeing something obvious here. But I really don't see the cause for alarm here.
@mattblaze @kolya @f800gecko Well, I haven't called you stupid. I might suggest you are being a bit naive on this particular issue, but nobody's perfect.
@kolya @mattblaze @f800gecko Say what? See my detailed replies. Of course, Mastodon probably isn't showing them to you since its reply thread mechanism is so bizarre.
@lauren
How would ads be different to the spam and other bad content we already have? Why wouldn't we able to deal with it the same way we do now? @mattblaze @f800gecko
How would ads be different to the spam and other bad content we already have? Why wouldn't we able to deal with it the same way we do now? @mattblaze @f800gecko
@mattblaze
Yes, I don't either. I heard some fears of embrace and extinguish tactics, ie FB might extend the protocol with proprietary features etc, but I don't see that working out realistically with ActivityPub being a @w3c standard.
@f800gecko @lauren
Yes, I don't either. I heard some fears of embrace and extinguish tactics, ie FB might extend the protocol with proprietary features etc, but I don't see that working out realistically with ActivityPub being a @w3c standard.
@f800gecko @lauren
Raven Onthill@mattblaze @kolya @f800gecko @lauren well yes but we usually block those. Meta is an exceptionally bad actor and must be treated with great caution. See https://erinkissane.com/untangling-threads