Sven A. SchmidtI’m puzzled by the response of folks abandoning their Mastodon accounts in favour of Threads following the beta announcement of federation. When the prospect is to eventually have the freedom to use either with the same reach, why would you choose the •Facebook• product?
Oana@finestructure agreed. Once off, better off...
Gwendal Roué@finestructure I’m not one of them, but maybe they like the algorithmic feed?
@groue That’s the only difference I can make out once everything is connected but interestingly I don’t see it being mentioned as a reason.
VertiseizeThat's exactly the reason I like mastodon though. I get on here and I feel like I see familiar faces, but threads it's always new people all the time! What's the point of following anyone even?
Leon Cowle@finestructure Sincere answer: I like it more on Threads. Mastodon is too full of zealots. And is very serious (on avg). Mastodon lacks pop culture, memes, jokes, banter, sports talk -- not zero, but so little. Even brands. Very few (near zero) comedians or actors ever came here. The algorithmic feed on Threads gives unlimited entertainment. It's just so more laid back there than here. I can't wait to follow Mastodon folk over there so I can make Threads my 100% social media home.
Tristan Colgate-McFarlane@leoncowle @finestructure the analogue photography community on here is great (and Threads joining might even improve that further), honestly though everything else is either dull or unpleasant (not individuals, but just the overall vibe of tech or politics for instance).
I'm 100% loving my film buddies though, it's what keeps me on here.
I'm 100% loving my film buddies though, it's what keeps me on here.
@tmcfarlane @finestructure You nailed it, Tristan. Masto is great for geek passions (and I say that as a geek myself). Linux, FOSS, scifi, fediverse, tech, photography. But it lacks broader appeal. Searching for popular TV show hashtags is a ghosttown here. Same for sports results. Camping/RVing. Travel. Non-white-people music. And soooo many other everyday topics that are PLENTIFUL on Threads (and yes, even still on TwitterX). GHOST TOWN, I tell ya.
@leoncowle @finestructure there's like 4 fans of The Archers on here, how niche do you want ;)
@leoncowle But the point is that with eventual full federation you get all that from Threads without moving your account there. That’s what I don’t get.
@finestructure I find that currently I spend upwards of 95% of my time on Threads in the algorithmic “For you” timeline, not the "Following” timeline. Federation won't bring that to Mastodon. What full federation will bring, though, is all my Mastodon follows into Threads, so I suspect I'll then spend 50/50 between the 2 timelines. In the "For you" one for generic entertainment/fun/relaxing, and in the "Following" one to see what all my Masto+Threads follows are up to. Best of both worlds, imo.
@finestructure Also, I doubt hashtags will ever jump the federation divide (but pls point me at contradicting evidence, I'd love to read it!). For example... Last night, after watching an episode of Schitts Creek, I made a post on Threads and hashtagged “Schitts Creek" in it. I then clicked through on it, and was presented with essentially endless Schitts Creek related posts. Happy to be corrected, but I don't believe that federation will make that available within Mastodon.
@finestructure there are solid techn8cal reasons to be on large "instances". It seem AP federation isn't perfect, I've heard of issues around missing replies. I find notifications very buggy when using the Web interface on my instance. I did look at Threads (many artist and photographers I like on there), the app looked like garbage, and I don't want an algorithmic feed anymore.
@tmcfarlane Yeah, I believe small/individual instances have the problem of missing replies because unless someone "pulls" the content in somehow it won't get synced automatically. I believe there are some plans to address this.
I never wanted an algorithmic feed. On Twitter I did everything to •avoid• it, so I don't understand why people would seek it out.
It's not that hard to create your own timeline by following interesting folks. Let their boosts be the muscle behind your timeline.
@finestructure I do think discoverability is an issue. The search implementation nay have helped, and honestly, we just need more diversity on here.
There's a weird thing where people attack artists if they try and sell their work. Unfortunately the histories of art and commerce are pretty tightly bound, and you aren't going to get people thronging to show interesting work if you attack them for trying to earn a living.
There's a weird thing where people attack artists if they try and sell their work. Unfortunately the histories of art and commerce are pretty tightly bound, and you aren't going to get people thronging to show interesting work if you attack them for trying to earn a living.