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Karmito Mar 21, 2024

blobblocraccoon

Reminder to anyone who said "Meta wouldn't do anything to Fediverse, we should let them join!"

Meta is now automatically muting all posts that mention PixelFed, so it's users can't read about any alternatives to its services.

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112126250737482807

Just remember, *Every time advocacy groups warn about tech/capitalism, believe them.* We don't make shit up, we use history of actions and facts to state our reasons to be against it.

If your instance isn't part of @FediPact please urge your admins to join or move to another instance who is.

And if you want proof, ask the general public what Jabber/XMPP was, and then ask what Google how they killed it.

EDIT: *Please* send support to the creator of the FediPact, @vantablack as she is homeless. This is possible because of them.

EDIT #2: Some peppe are saying it doesn't happen anymore, but since it *only* happened to competitors to Facebook and only *after* people noticed, I don't think it was a "bug" that only impacted FOSS replacements, but a feature for Facebook removed. Don't give these Zuckers gaslight and think they remain innocent.

#fedipact #meta #pixelfed #eff

blobblocraccoon

I know I put it in the edit, but please support the creator of the FediPact, Vanta. She needs the help. @vantablack

Monetary aid helps keeps them alive and the servers up.

#fedipact #mutualaid

Moffin'tosh Mar 20, 2024

@queue @FediPact cc: @dushman

𝐊𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐮

@queue @FediPact @vantablack

What does @mosseri have to say about this?

Olle Gladsø Mar 21, 2024

@queue @FediPact @vantablack You pick up the snake you are likely to get bit.

Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC Mar 21, 2024

@queue @FediPact @vantablack I'm still using Jabber, but there aren't many users. There weren't many users in the beginning, then there suddenly was a huge number of people, most of which were using Google, and then Google dropped XMPP, and we were back to a few users. Jabber hasn't vanished, but it stagnated, there hasn't been any significant growth in a long time. It's a network used by a few nerds and geeks.

@LordCaramac @queue @FediPact @vantablack

> Jabber .... It's a network used by a few nerds and geeks

Like me ... my whole family and some friends! 😀

It actually allowed me (friends and family) to get rid of Element ( Matrix ) and Signal for good and set Telegram to be the next in line to get the boot.

And I couldn't be happier!

Coming back ( from the early 2000's Jabber ) to today's #XMPP was one of the most liberating and satisfying experiences in the longest time!.

Thank you @xmpp ! ❤

Guus der Kinderen Mar 21, 2024

@LordCaramac @queue @FediPact @vantablack

A few nerds, you say? Have a look at this network graph that includes only a tiny portion of all XMPP server instances. Every circle in that graph is a domain, that each serves multiple nerds (or regular people).

Interactive variants of this graph are available on https://xmppnetwork.goodbytes.im

XMPP Network Graph

A visualization of interconnected XMPP domains

modulux Mar 21, 2024

@queue @FediPact @vantablack Wow, am I surprised. And it took so long, too.

Dave Winer ☕️Mar 21, 2024

@queue @FediPact @vantablack

Remember what Google did to RSS.

Zoidberg For President Mar 21, 2024

@queue @FediPact @vantablack I'm sorry I don't understand it very well but aren't all instances able to block the meta one?

@queue as soon as people started saying that, I was like "Yeah...no, don't think so" @FediPact @vantablack

ari melody 💫Mar 21, 2024

@queue embrace, extend, extinguish

Rémi du Nord Mar 21, 2024

Even if this story is true, I don't see how it relates to the Fedipact and why Threads should join the Fediverse or not.

Alberto Cottica Mar 21, 2024

@queue @FediPact @vantablack Hmm. @JohanEmpa , where are we with federation with Threads?

Johan Empa Mar 23, 2024

@alberto_cottica In a "wait and see" mode

Alberto Cottica Mar 23, 2024

@JohanEmpa but are we federated?

Johan Empa Mar 23, 2024

@alberto_cottica yes, we are

Alberto Cottica Mar 23, 2024

@JohanEmpa hmm. Is the non-federated instance up and running? I would rather not be federated with Threads.

Johan Empa Mar 23, 2024

@alberto_cottica No, it's not up and running. That's the wait and see part.

I've noticed how infosec.exchange created a second server to solve the federation dilemma. Their original server has 15 k users and the other, infosec.space, has fewer than 100 users. We can observe how that develops over the next few months.

From my point of view there isn't any rush to create a second server. Meta isn't even fully federated yet. It's one way as far as I understand it.

Alberto Cottica Mar 23, 2024

@JohanEmpa would you consider a form of "wait and see" that did NOT federate until Meta is proven to be a good citizen?

Johan Empa Mar 25, 2024

@alberto_cottica I wish I could send a poll to all active users and ask properly, but Mastodon doesn't have such a feature. So far there are more people following others on Threads than people voicing their opinion to block them.

Alberto Cottica Mar 25, 2024

@JohanEmpa ok noted, thanks.

Stefano "Foxy🦊" Volpe Mar 21, 2024

@queue @FediPact @vantablack
my instance's not in apparently🥹 @SLURF

the esoteric programmer Mar 21, 2024

@queue @FediPact @vantablack well, those of us who had any doubts, I told you so

Mauve 👁💜Mar 22, 2024

@queue @FediPact @vantablack I wonder if they'd be willing to open source their implementation so they can dodge accusations more effectively.

RiaResists Mar 22, 2024

@queue @FediPact @vantablack
I’m really bummed meta is here.
I blocked the instance.

Chewie Mar 22, 2024

@queue @FediPact @vantablack

Yes, and don't forget this:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2016/09/09/whatsapp-is-blocking-telegram-links-in-the-android-app/

We have every right to be sceptical of their motives.

William B Peckham Mar 22, 2024

@queue @FediPact @vantablack Where do I read about Google killing xmpp? I know that xmpp is not dead, because I'm still using it and there are a dozen programs that use it in F-droid alone!