@dgar I don’t care what FB, MS or Google do with my data - actually, I even share data with these platforms to help improve them. But, we should all be worried about TikTok and what the CCP does with them.

@Daniel_Keppler @dgar Well I see you’re not a woman worried about having your data shared with cops in a red state who can bust you for having an abortion, mister. This is something you have to be concerned about with American social media platforms.

Do you have a security clearance? If not you probably don’t have to worry about the CCP whether you use TikTok or not, you’re not that important. I know that’s disappointing to you.

@MisuseCase @Daniel_Keppler @dgar
TikTok sent out a mayday to flood Congress with calls and millions of pre-teens responded. What if they do the same thing in support of China invading Taiwan? Or against sanctions in support of Uygurs or Tibet?
I'm not for Facebook sharing data with law enforcement, but I can keep two things true.
@Okanogen @Daniel_Keppler @dgar Do you think all the kids who are upset about Palestine are going to suddenly be gung-ho for oppressing Tibet or invading Taiwan if TikTok tells them to? I really doubt it
@MisuseCase @Daniel_Keppler @dgar
They weren't upset about Palestine, they were deluded into being upset Congress was going to "ban TikTok", which isn't even what the bill was doing.

@Okanogen @Daniel_Keppler @dgar Force a sale to Steve Mnuchin (this is not a joke, he’s been trying to wrangle investors) or, failing that, ban it.

Actually 90 days is too short to secure a deal, so yes, this bill would ban it.

You could explain it to the young folks who are upset and tell them they are being deluded and they’d say “that’s better *how*?” They’d be right.

@MisuseCase @Daniel_Keppler @dgar
Will no one think of the poor Chinese oligarchs?

@Okanogen @Daniel_Keppler @dgar Unlike the American ones they won’t sell their users’ data to data brokers who will then sell it to cops in red states who will use it to track down women visiting abortion clinics.

Which is why Steve Mnuchin wants to buy TikTok.

(That and/or to do what Elon Musk did to Twitter.)

@MisuseCase @Daniel_Keppler @dgar
Why do you believe that? Because they don't care about making money, too? Because of their ideology?

@Okanogen @Daniel_Keppler @dgar No, because that’s why American domestic intelligence agencies don’t like them in spite of the fact that (by their own admission) they have no evidence of TikTok actually being used to spy on Americans.

American intelligence and law enforcement agencies buy our data from data brokers to do surveillance on us without technically violating the 4th Amendment.

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@Okanogen @Daniel_Keppler @dgar However, TikTok does not do business with these data brokers so DHS, the NSA, etc. don’t have access to that data. It’s a huge blind spot for them with a sensitive population (young people). So they really want TikTok to be either banned or sold to some American owner who will work with data brokers.

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@MisuseCase @Daniel_Keppler @dgar
That's a bullshit conspiracy theory. You know why I can say that? Like fucking Republicans and Democrats will suddenly work together for some common conspiracy theory goal like this in 2024? How low do IQ points need to drop to believe that?
@Okanogen @Daniel_Keppler @dgar There are a lot of self-described liberals on here who want to ban TikTok and are suspicious of it and yet the idea that some Democrats in Congress support this bill seems shocking to you and makes you say bad words?