Got into an interesting discussion on what matters in communication.

Nuance gets missed a lot when people tell half-truths. For instance, an astonishing amount of folks say they want gas as their heating system because of power outages.

Most gas-fired systems still need electricity to operate. Which, anyone who has lived with one during a power outage, already knows.

That half-truth is that a gas-fired system can more easily be supplied with emergency power. But most people don't have that.

So does the point even deserve to be made?

Truly, I think it doesn't.

The loss of any primary system becomes an emergency in extreme cold. And you'd be better-off to prepare for that.

A gas-fired heating system is not preparation for that. It makes one consideration easier, sure. But first and foremost people need to make that consideration - which most don't.

And there are plenty of backup options. I, for one, would rather have some propane on-hand for a portable heater when shit hits fan.

@TechConnectify there is an argument to be made for a natgas powered generator attached to the home. but now we're talking bougie shit
@peregrine Sure, but you could also do that with propane, diesel, or gasoline.
And hey, you could even use that generator to run a heat pump!
@TechConnectify it would have to be pretty large to get pass the in rush current! But RV's solved this with capacitors. That said I'm talking the big permanent ones https://www.costco.com/generac-home-standby-generators.html
@peregrine Oh - not anymore. Inverter-driven heat pumps barely have any inrush. They very slowly ramp up.
@TechConnectify oh my, bestill my beating heart, as if I couldn't love them more! I kinda regret getting my tane heat pump 3 years ago, but with winters like this years (Wisconsin here) I can't complain!

@peregrine Yeah, they're fantastic. I've seen people run very large heat pumps off a portable generator. You just hear the generators gradually get taxed more as the heat pump spins up.

Of course, in extreme cold, the heat pump can't produce a whole lotta heat on its own - and sizing the generator to run the heat strips, while possible, means you're buying a gnarly one. But even just a heat pump by itself will probably keep you well above freezing.

@peregrine If I were absolutely committed to resilience, I'd probably get a 100-gallon propane tank, use it to power a generator, and run a line to a through-wall propane heater for the days a heat pump might not be enough.

And that's really what gets me, here - there are so, so, soooooo many ways to do this with even more resiliency than relying on the gas grid to be there and working.

@TechConnectify I saw a study on repurposing gas lines as heat sources (or dump) for heatpumps. https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/carbon-free-buildings/new-york-will-repurpose-gas-pipelines-to-pump-clean-heat-into-buildings Which makes more sense than steam cause its low-pressure and the differential doesn't need to be as insane.
New York will replace gas pipelines to pump clean heat into buildings

A state law has spurred 13 utility pilot projects aimed at creating neighborhoodwide thermal energy networks — a climate strategy gaining traction nationwide.

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