Got into an interesting discussion on what matters in communication.

Nuance gets missed a lot when people tell half-truths. For instance, an astonishing amount of folks say they want gas as their heating system because of power outages.

Most gas-fired systems still need electricity to operate. Which, anyone who has lived with one during a power outage, already knows.

That half-truth is that a gas-fired system can more easily be supplied with emergency power. But most people don't have that.

So does the point even deserve to be made?

Truly, I think it doesn't.

The loss of any primary system becomes an emergency in extreme cold. And you'd be better-off to prepare for that.

A gas-fired heating system is not preparation for that. It makes one consideration easier, sure. But first and foremost people need to make that consideration - which most don't.

And there are plenty of backup options. I, for one, would rather have some propane on-hand for a portable heater when shit hits fan.

@TechConnectify there is an argument to be made for a natgas powered generator attached to the home. but now we're talking bougie shit
@peregrine Sure, but you could also do that with propane, diesel, or gasoline.
And hey, you could even use that generator to run a heat pump!
@TechConnectify it would have to be pretty large to get pass the in rush current! But RV's solved this with capacitors. That said I'm talking the big permanent ones https://www.costco.com/generac-home-standby-generators.html
@peregrine Oh - not anymore. Inverter-driven heat pumps barely have any inrush. They very slowly ramp up.
@TechConnectify oh my, bestill my beating heart, as if I couldn't love them more! I kinda regret getting my tane heat pump 3 years ago, but with winters like this years (Wisconsin here) I can't complain!

@peregrine Yeah, they're fantastic. I've seen people run very large heat pumps off a portable generator. You just hear the generators gradually get taxed more as the heat pump spins up.

Of course, in extreme cold, the heat pump can't produce a whole lotta heat on its own - and sizing the generator to run the heat strips, while possible, means you're buying a gnarly one. But even just a heat pump by itself will probably keep you well above freezing.

@TechConnectify and lets be real, in these kind dangerous scenarios, usually the local gov opens up warming centers for helping people stay safe and warm, while highly paid people work overtime to get it back within 1-3days at worst.

We live in a society, after all.

@peregrine If I were absolutely committed to resilience, I'd probably get a 100-gallon propane tank, use it to power a generator, and run a line to a through-wall propane heater for the days a heat pump might not be enough.

And that's really what gets me, here - there are so, so, soooooo many ways to do this with even more resiliency than relying on the gas grid to be there and working.

@TechConnectify I saw a study on repurposing gas lines as heat sources (or dump) for heatpumps. https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/carbon-free-buildings/new-york-will-repurpose-gas-pipelines-to-pump-clean-heat-into-buildings Which makes more sense than steam cause its low-pressure and the differential doesn't need to be as insane.
New York will replace gas pipelines to pump clean heat into buildings

A state law has spurred 13 utility pilot projects aimed at creating neighborhoodwide thermal energy networks — a climate strategy gaining traction nationwide.

Canary Media
@TechConnectify
I rather a wood stove with double burn and a catalyst. Hearthstone with soap stone ftw.
@peregrine