clifffMar 5, 2024

"They contacted me and asked if I wanted to audition for a side project. It became pretty apparent that it was for #Goose" - Cotter

guess that confirms the rumors about auditioning drummers while Ben was still in the band

https://www.wcax.com/2024/03/02/burlington-drummer-asked-join-jam-band-goose/#ltalrxkch4ml7rwep55

Burlington drummer asked to join the band Goose

If you have seen live music in the Queen City over the last decade, there’s a good chance you have heard Cotter Ellis keep a beat.

WCAX
Show threadLost ReflectorMar 6, 2024
@clifff I hope they have good lawyers
Show threadChrisMar 6, 2024
@LostReflector @clifff why? Is that illegal or something?
Show threadLost ReflectorMar 6, 2024
@chris @clifff they are 100% getting sued about all of this
Show threadPete ⭕️ Mar 6, 2024
@LostReflector @chris @clifff particularly the part where it’s a real tell that they were trying to hide it “..for a side project”. Bruh, keep it on the DL
Show threadChrisMar 6, 2024
@Phreba @LostReflector @clifff jambands committing fraud. Sad!
Show threadPete ⭕️ Mar 6, 2024
@chris @LostReflector @clifff the maga of hambands.
Show threadaburtchMar 6, 2024

@Phreba @chris @LostReflector @clifff Love this conversation, but you guys are acting like it's some kind of company that subject to the rule of law. It's a band. Just look at the Byrds for goodness sake. They had a lineup like a rotating door, kicking people out, getting new people in at whim and for no reason. Backstabbing infighting, the whole nine yards.

Is there some kind of 'jamband kangaroo court' that's going to legislate all these hurt feelings? I don't think so.

Show threadLost ReflectorMar 6, 2024
@aburtch @Phreba @chris @clifff some bands have written contracts and agreements
Show threadLost ReflectorMar 6, 2024
@aburtch @Phreba @chris @clifff which, if we are being cynical, supports the Industry Plant Theory in some way
Show threadChrisMar 6, 2024
@LostReflector @aburtch @Phreba @clifff the plot thickens
Show threadChopMar 6, 2024
@chris @LostReflector @aburtch @Phreba @clifff No one is getting sued. Anything that happened—on both sides—leading to Ben getting kicked out was put clearly in the past once they reached a financial agreement for Ben leaving.
Show threadLost Reflector
@chopaganda @chris @aburtch @Phreba @clifff I'd like to think you are right but we shall see
Mar 6, 2024 at 2:59pmWeb
Show threadChopMar 6, 2024

@LostReflector @chris @aburtch @Phreba @clifff I guess you never know. I just think it’s odd they got to a point of releasing simultaneous PR statements without a settlement. And I can’t imagine a settlement was reached without provisions to prevent future lawsuits.

Then again, if the band wasn’t completely forthcoming in the settlement negotiation, I’m not sure how that affects things. That would have been quite stupid on their part. Then again, hambands gonna hamband

Show threadMatt TaylorMar 6, 2024
@chopaganda @LostReflector @chris @aburtch @Phreba @clifff The right to sue was generally lost once a settlement agreement was reached regarding the buyout and dissociation of an ownership share member of the band (presuming the rumor that the band is formed in an LLC with shares/etc). Only a misrepresentation so severe that it leads to damages/injury of Ben would allow litigation to survive past pleadings. I don’t think this meets that level if it’s only the audition lie.
Show threadChopMar 6, 2024
@mattotaylor @LostReflector @chris @aburtch @Phreba @clifff That makes sense. So what you’re saying is there would have to be a mounting amount of evidence that Ben got fucked way more than he thought he did when he was at the negotiation table?
Show threadMatt TaylorMar 6, 2024
@chopaganda @mattotaylor @LostReflector @chris @aburtch @Phreba @clifff with the huge caveat that we don’t know the actual legal structure of the band or the nature of the representations made. Most misrepresentations that are litigated are future contracts/values/earnings. For example, per se that Goose was in negotiations to sign a multi million dollar contract and they never told Ben’s attorney. Or they were going to sell rights to a song for big money without disclosure.