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ATP Movie Club: Steve Jobs
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In this special episode, we watch and discuss Aaron Sorkin's 2015 film, "Steve Jobs”.
Tom Woodfin@atpfm Also, pretty clear the film is a high concept stage play: “Your life flashes before your eyes…as a trio of keynotes with echoing themes & a constant chorus.”
Marina Epelman@atpfm I’m going to ask the same question I asked before the frozen-meals episode: do you recommend the listeners consume the product before listening or not?
John Siracusa@marinaepelman Yes, you should watch the movie first.
Timber@atpfm if I hadn’t already subscribed this would have done the trick. Well played gentlemen.
ran mak@timber Can confirm that I must subscribe now
Kevin Patrick Doyle 🍅🥫@atpfm oh god, no
Alex Rosenberg@atpfm Will listen, but I was not a fan of that movie. Sorkin wrote what he wanted based on Walter's "idealized reality" book. The Ashton Kutcher movie actually felt more real.
@alexr I think that’s the other one I was trying to think of on the episode.
@siracusa I also was weirdly distracted by the incorrect layout of the off-camera areas of Town Hall and that the NeXT launch was shot in the entirely wrong building.
Jeff C. 🇺🇦🇬🇱@alexr @siracusa I never got around to watching it because — while I like Fassbender as an actor — he neither looks or sounds anything like Jobs.
Doesn’t help that this was based on Isaacson’s book, either.
Noah Wylie played a fairly convincing young Steve Jobs, IMHO, and — while he’s not the first actor I’d pick for any role — Kutcher certainly at least looked the part.
Christian Kent 𝘊𝘒 :＼﹥@siracusa @alexr The Ashton Kutcher movie ("Jobs") had production overlapping the Sorkin movie ("Steve Jobs") and both rode the wave of natural publicity following Steve's death.
So the movies are natural candidates for direct comparison. I'd love an episode that reviews "Jobs" and it would be easy to refer to "Steve Jobs" throughout.
But a useful episode would review "Pirates of Silicon Valley" as an unofficial prequel to "Jobs" and review them at the same time. The Sorkin movie stands apart and wouldn't fit into a two-for-one movie review like that.
ADGW@atpfm Isn't it a Danny Boyle film as he directed it?
Sandeep@atpfm this is going to sound absurd but I saw Michael Fassbender and thought it was @caseyliss’s Persona.
adacosta@atpfm None of the characters were convincing, I just kept getting distracted by Michael looking like someone completely different. So many great actors that could have portrayed each (Noah Wyle could have reprised his role as the younger Steve Jobs, Patrick Dempsey for the older Jobs, Josh Harnett for Woz, Natalie Portman for Joanna Hoffman, I guess maybe Jeff could stay.
Andrew Laurence@atpfm oh. Oh no.
Jason Anthony Guy@atpfm damn. Now I have to watch this movie. I’ve studiously avoided for so long….
Ian Robinson@atpfm I liked that film. As a three act drama play. Mini review I wrote at the time in the attached picture and alt-text. Including a typo!
Richard2001@ianRobinson @atpfm I too thought Fassbender was excellent as “Jobs”. He didn’t go for mimicry/accuracy (unlike Winslet) but I do think he captured at least a part of the man in his crisp, cutting line deliveries and the understated swagger/confidence.
James Veitch@atpfm Give me a biopic that uses “Becoming Steve Jobs.” as one of its sources. Then give me three actors playing SJ at different times in his life a la father Ted and the Three Ages of Elvis and we’ve pretty much got this wrapped up. https://youtu.be/8BGOkVaJ8Pg?si=ZxsOmdqJSb_r_o-e
The Three Ages of Elvis | Father Ted
@veitch @atpfm It's weird-but-understandable how unlikely this is, given the movie industry economies …
I was thinking about this the other day when reading how many movies were made of the books of my favourite (fiction) author — Frederick Forsyth — and how one or two books randomly in the middle of his repertoire were not adapted into screenplays.
The sad reality is that they never will be, probably. BUT: Here's an excellent solution to the problem of "they never make new movies anymore", the plague of sequels
@atpfm no movie is truly canon until it realises SJ’s anxiety panic tears when he discovers the iMac he’s about to introduce in ten minutes has no slot loading optical drive.
Mass@atpfm If you ever need a suggestion for another movie to discuss, I’d love to hear your thoughts on Steve Jobs: The Lost Interview. callsheet://open/movie/89638
charlesesmith@atpfm This was a good one. Very different field, but watching The Iron Claw right now, and the general vibe of “these characters share the name basically nothing else so might as well separate them and go on the ride” is extremely helpful.
Michael Katz@atpfm this ep inspired me to watch before listening. My main question was answered by @siracusa ... was wondering if there was actual evidence that Jobs sat on NEXT OS for the sole purpose of taking hardware back to Apple? (And I am a sucker for Sorkin. Would have watched earlier if I was aware of film.)