Jon Juarez
Mr. Completely@harriorrihar Arzak can't drive, he's used to flying
He is not Arzak, he is an Aztec with his Aztec clothing.
waarismijnhoofd@harriorrihar @mrcompletely
Respect that, and are you really saying that you are not at least inspired by Moebius?
(Not meant in a bad way, your art is beautiful)
Respect that, and are you really saying that you are not at least inspired by Moebius?
(Not meant in a bad way, your art is beautiful)
@waarismijnhoofd @mrcompletely
What I am really saying is that this character is exactly the same Aztec that you see in the reference image, I have copied it exactly and then I have traced a photo that I found on the internet of an accident truck. So no, I have not been inspired, what I have done is trace two existing references just as an AI would do.
@waarismijnhoofd @mrcompletely
If you see Arzak in my illustration it is because Moebius was surely inspired by that Aztec.
But I have not interpreted it, I have traced it exactly as it is, without any type of inspiration. I have not tried to make art, or transcend, etc., I have only carried out the work of tracing and coloring, in exchange for money.
@harriorrihar @waarismijnhoofd fascinating! Thank you for explaining! Of course Arzak could be directly based on an Aztec design - the similarities in the name point that way as well - and of course his time in Mexico was completely transformative for Moebius. It influenced his art and life profoundly. Now I know another example. Extremely cool
@mrcompletely @harriorrihar
Yes I really like all 3 pieces.
I didn’t only refer to the guy being inspired by Arzak, all of the three drawing look very much like Moebius, the one of the girl especially.
That’s meant as a compliment.
I just don’t know if you are maybe not a European and how well you know Moebius
Yes I really like all 3 pieces.
I didn’t only refer to the guy being inspired by Arzak, all of the three drawing look very much like Moebius, the one of the girl especially.
That’s meant as a compliment.
I just don’t know if you are maybe not a European and how well you know Moebius
@waarismijnhoofd @harriorrihar my observation is that in the last decade or so, the master Gir's influence has become so widespread and pervasive in SFF art that it forms part of the inherent aesthetic background. His line work, composition and color theory are all now essentially foundational in the field, whether or not any individual artist draws directly on his work for inspiration (or even rebels and pushes away from it). It's even in Marvel movies now.
@mrcompletely @waarismijnhoofd
This is one of my best-known illustrations, and therefore one in which my inspiration in Moebius is most mentioned. But where you see remains of a master, I only see my wife in a photo from my holidays. There are neither "his line, composition nor the theory of color that are now fundamental in this field." I simply traced the photo in the only way I am capable of tracing a photo, it is more like what an AI does, a filter, than what an artist does.
somnule@harriorrihar @mrcompletely @waarismijnhoofd it's certainly a beautiful source photo you've used, but the colors you choose and the way you pick which details to accentuate in your illustration is a product of your own mind, and it's beautiful in a way the photo doesn't have.
@som @mrcompletely @waarismijnhoofd
Well, it's a mechanism or a filter, right now I could do it with an AI.
@som @mrcompletely @waarismijnhoofd
And I think so.
@som @mrcompletely @waarismijnhoofd
It is a fact, not a belief.
Julianoë@harriorrihar @som @mrcompletely @waarismijnhoofd AI would not have invented a pointed hat in reference of a story that moved you and your wife though 😉
@Julianoe @som @mrcompletely @waarismijnhoofd
And if it does that, they won't pay me for it either. 