AutistoMephistoExtremists Call for ‘Civil War’ and ‘Secession’ Over Texas Border Ruling
twistypencilI don’t get why Biden doesn’t do this. The fear is abott will say government over reach and that will be a talking point for the election? How about strong father figure, who enforced the law to keep us united?
You can’t let what Republicans say dictate what you do
No matter what Biden does, they’re going to do what they’re going to do.
Even if he doesn’t do the right thing now, they’ll just lie some more and do it anyways.
I guess the flip side of that though is it’s really past when everyone should keep trying to reason and compromise with these screaming toddlers. How many times now have we seen this exact thing play out where Republicans act completely unhinged and Democrats treat them with kid gloves and keep offering them compromises and trying to appease them. Fuck em. Ignore them until they cross the line, then come down on them like a ton of bricks. No more playing nice, no more treating them like reasonable adults. Wait until Abbott puts his name on something legally incriminating then send the FBI in to haul him to a jail in DC and try him for sedition. Bonus points if they can swing the death penalty.
I mean, have you ever tried to sink to a toddlers level and get in a screaming match with them?
But sure, ideally we’d start running FDR style Dems again, get some of the 1/3 of the country who doesn’t vote regularly, and conservatives can keep screaming into the void while Dems sweep every election that matters.
FDR literally only lost two states in 36, because he was legitimately trying to help the average American.
But the DNC is very open about not wanting that, and after NH I really think they’d go as far as ignoring results in a competitive primary in 2028.
So we’re kind of stuck with trying to win over conservatives, that’s the only direction the DNC recognizes as valid.
I’ve given up on winning the game, I’m just trying to lose as little as possible at this point. Definitely doesn’t mean I have to like it either.
But the choice is try what we can or check out and watch it all burn down, I’m not ready for that yet.
Fuck em. Ignore them until they cross the line, then come down on them like a ton of bricks. No more playing nice, no more treating them like reasonable adults.
Damn straight! As a parent to an actual toddler, sometimes I have to take my son’s toys away until he chooses to behave. Does that make me the “bad guy”? Maybe. But it’s also part of being an adult.
gregorum“Meet me in the middle,” says the unjust man.
You take a step forward, he takes a step back.
“Meet me in the middle,” says the unjust man.
— A. R. Moxon
I see you’ve negotiated with Republicans before.
Malignant narcissist parents. I got started early.
No matter what Biden does, they’re going to do what they’re going to do.
Ah, another Innuendo Studios fan, I see. Yes, just like he said in “Alt-Right Playbook Ep. 3, ‘You Go High, We Go Low’”,
Republicans are going to cry “So much for the tolerant left!” no matter what form our opposition takes, so the obvious solution is to just ignore them. But clearly it’s more complicated than that, or we wouldn’t be having this issue.
This business with the border is another example of them going low, and Biden and Democrats trying to keep the moral high ground.
The Alt-Right Playbook is one of the best video essay series on YouTube 
Fuck that.
The high ground is fighting fascism.
Lincoln tried apeasment leading up to Civil War 1 and all that did was give the South time to build strength.
We just saw how bad of an idea it is to crush an insurrection slowly. And there are shit ton of examples of how well appeasing extremists works worldwide.
As soon as Abbots letter came out, Biden should have activated them under title 10, had them remove any remaining razor wire and the rest of the bullshit. If Abbott tried to move cops or a “militia”, then everyone involved should be arrested for sedation.
This isn’t normal republican bullshit from a decade ago.
This shit is as serious as conservative extremists make it. Giving in a little just emboldens them, and ignoring them does the same thing.
I say this as a veteran of the US military:
There’s a shit ton of US active military who would be willing to overthrow the government for some conservative bullshit.
We can’t underestimate them. Even if they’re idiots, they’re dangerous idiots.
I constantly tell Democrats this, and am constantly met with childish accusations of overreaction.
This country is completely fucked for the simple reason that there is literally no left wing. There is nothing to counter the unjust and illegal maneuvers fascists deploy that democrats are willing to use. It’s pathetic.
You gotta counter with a “sure, but here are fair terms and conditions to have a clean break with the US”
I think they’ll turn tail when corporations realize they’ll be treated as foreign unless they relocate outside of Texas.
PugJesusBecause Democrats don't go in for the same 'Daddy Issues Politics' that Republicans do, and Republicans will never vote for Biden?
JaysynI agree, but at the same time, watching fascists get stomped, legally or otherwise, brings me immense joy.
It does to me too, but I also understand why stomping fascists in an election year can be a bad idea.
'Can', of course. It may be that we get to stomp fascists and benefit from it. But I get why it may not happen.
Please, leave. Don’t come crying to us the next time your electrical grid gets overwhelmed.
Hey! Y’all used to rely on us to kick-start y’all’s power grids! Back in the '70s and '80s! Back when racism and cocaine reigned supreme!
Now y’all are all like, “ew, why is that racist coke-head talking to me?” Well, it’s cuz you’re woke or something!
Hey! Listen to me and stop walking away! Why are you taking our American flags?? Hello?
Flying SquidSpeaking of power grids, have fun trying to keep yours maintained once you secede, Texas. It barely works as it is now.
Really? It seems to be working great. In fact, Texas has the most diverse power generation with nat gas AND coal AND solar (largest national producer) AND wind (largest national producer) AND nuclear. Coupled with the largest oil play in America along with a significant amount of the country’s refining capacity, I think Texas would be just fine in a secession.
It’s understandable that you think this, having been born in 2022.
As someone who had to wrap my dementia-affected grandmother in blankets and help her sleep next to my mom’s fireplace while she randomly woke up yelling out my recently-deceased grandfather’s name back in February 2021, I’m gonna say our problem is less about diversification and more about maintenance, infrastructure, oversight, and corruption/improper investments.
There’s a wolf going through your neighborhood that can easily get into homes with old alarm systems but easily defeated by updated security. Are you gonna let the wolf eat you because you’re so proud of how well you designed your old-ass system and the cool modern features it can mimick, or are you gonna call the fucking alarm company and update your security system no matter the cost?
We keep trying nothing and then saying, “but it won’t be so bad this time because we invested more money into the people who failed us last time.”
Yep I completely agree there. They didn’t upgrade the plants to be ready for a cold snap back in Feb 21. I was right in the middle of it. Can you confidently say nothing has been done to mitigate it for next time? Because it just hit -10 for three days without a problem.
You’re not wrong that some changes were made but the vast majority of investment isn’t going into sustainable solution. Texas Monthly recently had an interesting write-up about the nuances as to why the power stayed on this year.
I’m also not sure where you are, but in San Antonio this year, the temperature, precipitation, and duration were all far more forgiving than 2021.
My concern is that, especially with the Texas grid still being privatized, profits will continue to be prioritized over safety and cold weather will soon not be the only killer.
There is always going to be a risk in extreme weather for power issues. I don’t believe increased government regulation is going to help as they are terrible at doing things efficiently and cost effectively. Texas has some of the cheapest power which is great for those of modest means and it would be a shame to change that for those choosing between a meal or their power bill. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
OK since there’s always a risk, how about we take away your air conditioning. You don’t need it to survive most of the time, so fuck preparing for the rare events, right??
Fucking pathetic.
By your methodology, should we also take away seat belts in cars? I maintain my ac so it is always in working order and ready to handle extreme heat. Also a generator on hand to back it up just in case. Not pathetic my friend, just ready.
Too bad those of modest means can’t afford their own generators. But screw them right? Should probably have been born richer.
Who said screw them? I’m not rich. Hard work and sacrifice is what allowed me to do it. They aren’t crazy expensive and buying used is always an option. I’m sure others of modest means could do it too.
Can you confidently say nothing has been done to mitigate it for next time?
Yes. Nothing has been done to mitigate it for next time. ERCOT uses weather and manufactured scarcity to drive increased profits as we suffer. They will not willingly fix anything, and there is no mechanism to force them to fix anything.
Abbott is heavily funded by ERCOT. What ERCOT wants, ERCOT gets and Abbott will sit by and placate Texans about it as needed. That’s what he’s paid by them to do.
When Abbott and ERCOT say “we’ve done a lot of things to prevent this from happening again. We invested in more generation and winterization”, but then point to nothing substantial, what they are saying is they’ve done nothing to prevent another opportunity for them to manufacture scarcity on the bodies of dead Texans again.
During this latest cold spell last week, which was significantly warmer state-wide than the blackout event, ERCOT issued rolling blackout warnings for three days, warning us that rolling blackouts were possible over and over again. They falsely blamed wind generation short-comings, despite wind advisories and wind storms all week long all over Texas.
They are terrible liars and, instead of pushing back on them, you defend them. Why? Why are you defending vile, grotesque sub-humans who profit on the deaths of fellow Texans?
Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Never, ever believe a conservative. Never.
How about that mitigation during heatwave just 4 months ago?
npr.org/…/the-texas-power-grid-struggles-through-…
Did you forget about those additional rolling blackouts that no one else in the country deals with?
Cough California cough
Funny. Their electric grid is also ran by corrupt buffoons.
Hey person I am against corruption as much as anyone. All human systems are corruptible and we need to be realistic. To think that “they” are being malicious is probably not correct. I don’t think the many thousand of people involved in the power industry laugh about people dying in extreme weather. Nor the ones at the top. They believe a free market for energy has benefits that outweigh the negatives. If anyone has evidence of real corruption I will gladly pick up my pitchfork and join the party. There are bad apples in almost every bunch and should be rooted out.
You atre litrrally braindead or a mouth piece of corporations. Grow up and get CEO dick out of your mouth.
Got nothing left but to call me names? Cheers man and good luck, you probably need it
What units are you using for your -10?
chron.com/…/houston-freeze-texas-18610377.php
This is saying lows in the 20s with an all time record of 5 set 90+ years ago.
zelifcamReally. And Texas got here while kicking and screaming and blaming everyone for their issues. Just because there’s been improvements, doesn’t change the history we all lived and witnessed.
Did you have a point?
I think you made it for me.
I don’t hate Texas. I think most people in the US are with me on that. All that freedom has broken your brain. You’re starting to restrict it over there. And y’all seem to very sensitive about it all. It’s sad. We’re worried about you.
You’re truly, -everyone not in Texas
QuetzlcoatlMy block list floweth over
You don’t have to write a comment to block. But it does show your need for public validation.
I’m with you, fuck this shit stain
Grammaton ClericAs a lifelong Texan, please shut the fuck up forever.
Exsquuze me? What’s your problem?
I LIVE HERE
And? These were just facts. I’m not calling for secession nor do I think it is a good idea. Better together than apart.
Texas has the most diverse power generation with nat gas AND coal AND solar
I think I saw that brochure.
Nah just facts easily findable on the internet
Your account has only been active on Lemmy for 9 days and every single comment you’ve made has been downvoted into oblivion. Why is that?
That should be obvious. I’m in the wrong echo chamber
Sure bro, it’s not because you’re a clown who refuses to acknowledge reality.
Was that your whole comment? What reality am I missing here? I haven’t derided or put down anyone on this site. In fact most people on here seem quite rude. Everyone just gets their undies in a bunch over views that don’t align with theirs.
“Texas’ power cannot suck; it’s super diverse!” 🤡
That you?
I never said it couldn’t suck. It clearly failed in 2021. But to call it a flat out joke is also wrong.
Really? It seems to be working great.
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I never said it couldn’t suck.
Maybe you just have different definitions for ‘suck’ and ‘great’ than the rest of us.
Well, the echo chamber for idiots calls itself X now, so its users have less problems with spelling it.
Shoo, troll.
I bet it’ll run just fine on thoughts and prayers. Good luck to you, ya Yankee heathen!
Oh shoot, my lights ran out of thoughts — gotta switch to the backup prayers…
Go for it.