Cascadian Jorm
SwiftOnSecurityYou think automotive engineers ever go “good thing im an automotive engineer because it would be a fucking nightmare to drive this thing if I wasn’t” anyway that’s what working in IT is like
Allan Chow@SwiftOnSecurity what is the most stick shift thing in IT
Claudius
skryking@claudius via jumpers and no internet..only documentation was via ibm fax line.
Dan 
Light Owl ☸️@grumpasaurus @SwiftOnSecurity Analogous to stick-shifting: switching between 4 horizontally-arranged desktop workspaces with a keyboard shortcut like Ctrl + Alt + L & R arrow keys
Sten the Sten
Jeff Grigg@grumpasaurus @SwiftOnSecurity
I've always thought of programming in the "C" language as the most "stick shift" thing I've been doing in I.T.
And I was doing plenty of both!
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(Assembly language is "far below" the "stick shift" level!!!)
@JeffGrigg @SwiftOnSecurity garbage collectors schmarbage collectors!
@grumpasaurus @SwiftOnSecurity
"I'll Do As I Darned Please With Memory, Thank You!!!"
mark@grumpasaurus @SwiftOnSecurity old , not needed, but fun... compiling the lightest Linux kernel you can, specific to the hardware it will be running on.
Used to take all day Saturday to get it to complete, then find you used the wrong nic driver.
Stick shift af. It's better, but there is no need
Karthik@grumpasaurus @SwiftOnSecurity Exact equivalent would be, giving an expensive Unix machine with root access and stackoverflow.
Either nothing starts off or is going to be an expensive mistake
Justin Dearing@grumpasaurus @SwiftOnSecurity different concept. People opt into stock shift for the joy of it. Probably using vim
Ceremus@grumpasaurus @SwiftOnSecurity IMO in terms of Windows Admin it's doing all of your config and rollout actions in Powershell instead of the GUI. Actually a good example of that is the deploy option in Windows Server. You can have the Windows point & click experience if you want it, but last I checked the bare bone default option is command line interface only.
Oliver Jensen@grumpasaurus @SwiftOnSecurity using Gentoo as your daily driver.
By-and-By@SwiftOnSecurity I wonder if there's an analog for being forced to design larger and larger pedestrian killers
Zimmie@ByAndBy @SwiftOnSecurity Of course there is. Shiny-Driven Development is everywhere. A decade ago, it was “Everything needs to be containerized stateless microservices!” Then “We need serverless!” Then “Why don’t we have a blockchain?” Now it’s pointlessly integrating LLMs where a simple NLP chatbot would work for maybe 1% the processor power.
Wildduck@ByAndBy @SwiftOnSecurity Overhyped IA ?
scottley@SwiftOnSecurity the better analogy is a mechanic, and yes, it do be like that for tradespeople... however... I also know people, who won't do their trade at home.
Pamela M@SwiftOnSecurity Automotive engineer here. My skills definitely come in handy when things unexpectedly go wrong.
For example, turning off the ignition in your car doesn’t do much to reset things. You have to open the drivers door and close it after turning the car off to make a lot of electronics go to sleep.
CyberB@PamelaMcMuffin @SwiftOnSecurity I'm gonna have to remember that... that's a good tip to know!
Femme Malheureuse@SwiftOnSecurity I've never met an automotive engineer who thought that and I've both worked with them and gone to school with them.
People working in automotive manufacturing, however...
Manufacturing has a lot more in common with IT and I've worked in IT. Both have to deal with crazy sh*t on the fly, keeping chewing gum, duct tape, baling wire handy or the digital equivalent for hot fixes to keep things running until scheduled downtime.
Jason Haar 
@SwiftOnSecurity for a moment I thought you were quoting a Tesla employee 😜
Carl@SwiftOnSecurity
The thing is that automotive/mechanical/civil Engineers are held accountable for the mistakes in their designs and can/have been prosecuted for failures...
Software "engineers" on the other hand can fuck up multi-million dollar projects and yet walk away scot-free to do it again and again...
Pet Pharmer@SwiftOnSecurity Thank you for validating my experience! It is a fucking nightmare! 😂
Universal Basic Friend@SwiftOnSecurity as a sexual health professional I have this sentiment very often.
Korfox@SwiftOnSecurity As an automotive engineer you think "Holy shit. If ppl knew what they are driving they would never go 130mph on the left lane."
Mara 
@SwiftOnSecurity ...holy shit
David Seidl@SwiftOnSecurity As I sit at the dealership because my brand new hybrid CRV lights up like a bright orange Christmas tree, it feels more like the same folks who make bad software design choices designed the car.
A wheel speed sensor is throwing errors. That leads to the entire camera/vision system giving up. Then ABS, TPMS, hill assist, and every other dang smart system throws "call your dealer" errors cyclically so you get constant notifications.
Peter J. Jones@SwiftOnSecurity Today I had to use the CSS debugger in Firefox to fix a medical form. A question was completely obscured by input tags from the proceeding question thanks to some doofus using positioning and fixed pixel widths. How do non-technical folks deal with this?