IMPORTANT:
trans people do not have to be on HRT, or medically transition at all, and are still trans
but also
trans people who ARE on HRT *need* it, and depriving them of it is forcibly medically detransitioning them (but doesn’t make them suddenly not trans)
k thx good talk
@tillybridges I'm not sure if I *need* HRT. Honestly there are other aspects of transition that I needed more. But if anyone tried to take it from me... 🤬
(Actually, that's not hypothetical. The fucking NHS did try to take my meds away, utter gatekeeping assholes that they are. It... did not feel good.)
Basically HRT should be anyone's right, a matter of informed consent. Nobody should ever have to declare a "need" for it.
@tattie sure. yes.
but again this is a different topic, waffles and pancakes
the fact is many trans people DO *need* it
@tillybridges so here's what it boils down to: I've said I don't *need* HRT. Do you think it's justified to deny me it on those grounds?
Because I don't think it's right to deny it to anyone.
@tattie of course not! But rather than understanding the point of the post, you want to argue semantics for zero reason. because you yourself said you can’t lose HRT, which to me very much sounds like a need.
regardless, it is waffles. and. pancakes.
good gravy.
@tillybridges I'm glad to hear it. But you said:
"For those who don't NEED it, losing it isn't horrific."
You realise why that sentence would make me feel pretty worried, right? I'm not arguing semantics here, I was trying to understand if you would defend my right to gender care or if you'd just say "haha, well it's not like they *need* it, so long as I've got mine that's ok".
Because... there are plenty who *do* think that way.
@tattie okay but I said nothing that indicated I am one of the folks who hates waffles. and you’re still arguing semantics.
if losing HRT would be horrific for you, then you do in fact need it. but you don’t want to call it a “need.” but that’s not my problem? I’m so confused
maybe just don’t police posts looking for waffles to argue about 🤷🏻♀️
I’m stepping out of this convo now, I’ve got pancakes to deal with
@tattie @enby_of_the_apocalypse I mean yes, I know all that.
but there is a tendency for those who have been oppressed and ground into dust to be so used to having to fight for what they need that they push back too far and end up causing harm in the other direction.
you see it with poly people who treat mono people like they’re “lesser” or “foolish” or “deluded” instead of just another way to be, like poly people are.
@tattie @enby_of_the_apocalypse
because they’ve had to fight anti-poly mono people just to be able to have the right to be poly as that’s what’s right for them.
and there are trans people who’ve had to fight transmedicalists so hard just to exist that they say things like “you don’t NEED HRT.” and no. You don’t need it to be trans! But the people who need it do REALLY NEED IT. it’s not optional. and it’s not transmedicalist to say that.
@tattie @enby_of_the_apocalypse
it’s a trauma response that manifests in so many ways, and it comes from the intense pressures we’re put under by awful people
and when fighting for our right to occupy the space we do, we need to make sure we’re not making less space for someone else
there’s no one right way to be trans, one one right sexuality, or way to be (or not be) romantic
being poly AND mono are both valid
being on HRT and no HRT are both valid
@itzyg @tattie @EnaWasHere oh it’s much worse, because cis people get gender affirming healthcare too. and they’re all perfectly fine with that.
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