Valerie AuroraDec 28, 2023

CCC leadership is forcing random community members to confront, kick out, and request an actual ban of Jake Appelbaum from CCC events. This is absolute cowardice and lack of care for those who are vulnerable to sexual assault. It’s been 8 years since leadership knew that he was a danger to the community

https://tldr.nettime.org/@eaon/111658045309830027

#37c3 #ioerror

Indeterminacy, maybe (@[email protected])

Yesterday, Linus Neumann and Frank Rieger were visibly uncomfortable when they met with me to discuss my confrontation with Jacob Appelbaum. It turns out, Jake has never been formally banned from any CCC event. #37c3 #ioerror

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Show threadschrotthaufenDec 28, 2023
@vaurora @tante He has been banned from congress in 2016. I wonder why they don’t enforce it (anymore?). https://nitter.net/chaosupdates/status/743796751694467073
Show threadSteamroller Willie (Cotton 🍬)Dec 28, 2023
@schrotthaufen @vaurora @tante on a technicality he wasn't formally banned. Not ever, in fact.
Show threadFlorian IdelbergerDec 29, 2023
@eaon @schrotthaufen @vaurora @tante do you know what this technicality was if you want to share?
Show threadSteamroller Willie (Cotton 🍬)Dec 29, 2023

@fl0_id @schrotthaufen @vaurora @tante https://tldr.nettime.org/@eaon/111658054295872100

The lack of hierarchical structures to just be able to make that call for real was cited to me as the reason. So some of them thought the next best thing was playing pretend.

But from where I stand, it is the unwillingness by the organisation to become proactive in a real sense why all that existed was a tweet to give the illusion of safety and care, when in fact they were, again, just engaged in reputation management.

Don't get me wrong, I am not calling for hierarchy, that was Linus' and Frank's justification - they had a literal year to handle this because they knew he was trying to become ever more present. And then didn't do shit.

Indeterminacy, maybe (@[email protected])

But what about https://twitter.com/chaosupdates/status/743796751694467073 then? Well. That tweet was an informal statement that couldn't be backed up by a formal mandate in the organisational structure of CCC #37c3

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Show threadWren ReillyDec 29, 2023

@eaon @fl0_id @schrotthaufen @vaurora @tante

Failure to have a code of conduct and enforcement is a hierarchy. It puts rapists in charge of the event.

Funny that the argument against masks for COVID at CCC events was that masks supposedly give immunosuppressed people a false sense of security, something blatantly false. Yet event policies full of holes are just fine.

Show threadValerie AuroraDec 29, 2023

@akareilly @eaon @fl0_id @schrotthaufen @tante

ccc leadership: banning a known predator from our event is impossible

also ccc leadership: you must have a ticket to attend our event

strange how one of these is compatible with their principles about hierarchy and the other is not

Show threadWren ReillyDec 29, 2023
@vaurora @eaon @fl0_id @schrotthaufen @tante a ticket that many people can’t afford because Germany’s statistics on racism, gender gaps in STEM, and pay gaps in IT lag behind the rest of Europe. This isn’t just about a little private club. People are making professional connections at CCC events. Events inaccessible to many people.
Show threadLBDec 29, 2023

@akareilly This is actually a very bad take when you compare the ticket price to other big conferences and take the friends tickets into consideration.

If you want to make professional connections at a conference, the CCC events are the cheapest option in the market.

Show threadWren ReillyDec 29, 2023

@lbenedix When you can’t afford €100, it doesn’t matter that another event is €1000

It especially matters when you can’t afford the ticket and travel because you were fired for objecting to sexism, pay gaps, ableism, racism, transphobia, harassment, and physical threats at work.

Even if you can afford the €, trauma from encountering an abuser at an event causes burnout and then you lose your job and then what? It’s all tied together.

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@akareilly I'm totally with you on banning Jake and other assholes from the Congress.

But you were talking about the ticket price and how you could use the Congress for making professional connections. I'd say there are a lot of opportunities for people with no money to attend CCC events, more than for any comparable event.

Dec 29, 2023 at 10:36amWeb
Show threadLBDec 29, 2023

@akareilly I'm also with you that the Congress and other CCC events feel like a private elitist club.

But it's not about the money.

"Wer macht, hat Recht" and "judge people by what they do" can be very exclusive. Most people don't have the luxury to have the resources to spend the better part of a year to prepare Congress and they basically don't count in the "meritocracy" that the Congress wants to be. Surviving seems to be not enough.