Dizzy
ImogenBe honest, can you read an analog clock?
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14 - 21 = YES
14 - 21 = NO
22 - 29 = YES
22 - 29 = NO
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wraptile@HopelessDemigod It'd take any adult like 2 minutes to figure out how an analog clock works even if they've never seen before would be my guess.
Mårten Paulsson@wraptile ”whoa! It stops at 60?!!” @HopelessDemigod
The Tech Owl@MArtenp @wraptile @HopelessDemigod Well, I'm an adult and it only takes me a few seconds to read an analog clock. I remember being taught in school. Maybe it's no longer the case anymore.
Mr. Teatime@wraptile
It took me much longer than that, with explanations, and while I'm fine reading them, there's still some conscious effort involved, decades later.
I think they could be easier to figure out if the short pointer did not relate to the big numbers, which look like labels to the minute scale.
Also: Any way to indicate time with 12h is needlessly indefinite. Appending "AM" or "PM" is a poor solution (the meaning of "12:00PM" is impossible to determine on your own)
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@Mr_Teatime @HopelessDemigod that's interesting! Maybe I overestimated how intuitive analog clock design actually is. All I remember when I had to learn it as a kid it was pretty easy.
I think the AM/PM is irrelevant though as you wouldn't start learning without having context of what time of the day it is so it wouldn't interfere with your ability to grok the design as you know AM/PM implicitly already. That's assuming you give an accurate, working clock to the subject.
@wraptile
yes, the AM/PM thing is fine as long as
you're reading a clock to figure out the current time.
It only becomes annoying (to me) when used to communicate times.
Regardless, analogue watch faces take me longer to read than digital 24h ones, despite being dominant when I grew up.
lizzzzard@Mr_Teatime @wraptile @HopelessDemigod did you know how this came to be? Clock towers. Because you needed to be able to see the time from a distance. Since the minute marks are smaller than the hour marks you need the pointer to be closer to or overlaping with the mark in order to figure it out from afar.
@lizzard
yes, and putting the hour marks on the outside would be a waste of space while the minute marks would be closer together and harder to discern.
I suspect that's also the reason for going with 12h faces: Fewer intervals to show. And sundials also had about 12 hours because they didn't work at night (and I'm sure the Church preferred 12 to 24).
These days, 24h clock faces with hours outside would make some sense to me, but switching now would be *hard*.
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@wraptile @HopelessDemigod it's actually quite hard as far as cognitive tasks go, what with the one day being two rounds thing. You learn it quite late, and it's something that old people unlearn when dementia sets in.
Tappin Lisa@HopelessDemigod
Are you doing to do a poll for reading cursive? 😁
Are you doing to do a poll for reading cursive? 😁
7331@TappinLisa
that'd be kinda funny because there are places in the world where kids are still learning cursive in school
so it'd have to account for age and country ig
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that'd be kinda funny because there are places in the world where kids are still learning cursive in school
so it'd have to account for age and country ig
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Migrated to @luana@wetdry.world 🏳️🌈🎃🇧🇷Luana🇧🇷🎃🏳️🌈@HopelessDemigod @TappinLisa @7331 “still” learning cursive? There are places that do not use cursive anymore?
SylvainMy oldest kid is 21 and never learned cursive so I guess it hasn't been taught for 15 years here.
FrauZeitlos@luana my son's teacher taught cursive as kind of optional. And my son isn't the kid who does optional things, so he never learnt it at school. I made him learn it at home during 4th grade and promised him, he would be able to write faster (less time to do homework) and more legible. I was right and he loves writing cursive now.
Julien Colomb@7331 @TappinLisa @HopelessDemigod same for analog clock probably, my children are learning it at 7 y o (second class)
(germany)
Public clocks are analog (in europe)
Andreas Burger@HopelessDemigod i can, but i do not like (older than your range)
DawiLDanger@HopelessDemigod you mean people under 30 often cannot? I remember we learned that in primary school. Here in Germany you often have regular clocks at stations and airports, also at bigger busstops etc.
Deb4+ aka Deborah DT 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️You think people under 21 are on this site? That will be interesting to see. (I've seen maybe 1 or 2 that might have been)
yaygya@DeborahForPlus @HopelessDemigod there are dozens of us! Dozens!
381 whole votes so far, even!!
Daigoro Toyama@HopelessDemigod My niece, who will be 14 in three weeks, says she can read an analogue clock. Should I vote on her behalf?
HipsterDM
Slatian@HopelessDemigod I can read one, but not intuitively.
Uddelhexe@HopelessDemigod To exclude any 29+ ppl is a bold move in the fediverse XD
So i vote vor
30-50: YES
Stefan Scholl@HopelessDemigod I made a video that shows 24 hours in 24 minutes on an analog clock, 24h digital clock, 12h digital clock.
For people who struggle with analog clocks (and AM/PM).
24 hours in 24 minutes on an analog clock, a 24-hour clock, a 12-hour clock, and a second counter
@HopelessDemigod And if you would like to learn Roman numerals, you can turn on subtitles for this 60-minute countdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woAP-v8RB2c
60 Minute Roman Numerals Timer/Countdown with Alarm
Kim@HopelessDemigod I'm 44 and very much think in digital. Reading an analogue clock is a basic skill that I learned at the usual age, but because I was surrounded by digital clocks it never became useful enough to be something I'm fluent at.
(This is somewhat unusual for my generation. Probably because my parents lived abroad for most of the 70s, so all the household stuff I grew up with was either new, or had been in storage from the 60s. In clock terms, the only analogue ones were my parents' watches and one wind-up clock on the kitchen window sill that was too high to see easily when I was small.)
(This is somewhat unusual for my generation. Probably because my parents lived abroad for most of the 70s, so all the household stuff I grew up with was either new, or had been in storage from the 60s. In clock terms, the only analogue ones were my parents' watches and one wind-up clock on the kitchen window sill that was too high to see easily when I was small.)
Chuck@kim @HopelessDemigod I'm a similar age. While I'm analog clock fluent, I had many classmates who struggled with them all through high school. I doubt the struggles stopped after that, I just stopped paying attention. It's not surprising or unusual to me now if many younger people also find them awkward when they are even less common now.
Personally, my wife and I both love analog clocks and have them all over the place.
@ATurnOfTheNut @HopelessDemigod I can appreciate the beauty of a nice mechanical clock, but digital ones just have the time written on them (and these days are quite likely to be synchronised to a reliable time source), rather than needing to be decoded.
I don't think analogue clocks are in any danger of dying out completely. They'll be appreciated in the same way as classic cars or vinyl records. Thinking about it, non-smart wristwatches are already mostly jewellery, and digital doesn't really work for that.
I don't think analogue clocks are in any danger of dying out completely. They'll be appreciated in the same way as classic cars or vinyl records. Thinking about it, non-smart wristwatches are already mostly jewellery, and digital doesn't really work for that.
@kim @HopelessDemigod I think you hit on some of the difference, though. When I look at an analog clock, I don't do any converting, I just see "the time" directly. Maybe that just clicks for some people and not for others, depending on how we're individually wired.
David Nash@HopelessDemigod Bonus points for reading 24-hour analog clocks! Here's a 24-hour clock, where noon is *down*, at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich. Digital time stamp on the photo is 2:53 p.m. (14:53) local time. Analog clock time is ... sure enough ... XIV + 53 minutes.
Boba@dpnash @HopelessDemigod The Roman numerals are ugly on that clock but it's surprisingly easy to read once you determine that the hour hand in fact points at the hour of the day.
@TapiocaPearl @HopelessDemigod Inside the observatory, at least whatever parts are still active, there’ll be a 24-hour “sidereal” clock, where 24 hours is the time between successive times a given star is highest in the sky instead of successive times the Sun is highest. Look at that 24-hour clock and you know immediately what stars are in a good position to view (for example, in the northern hemisphere, Orion is highest between about 05:00 and 06:00 sidereal time, regardless of time of year).
BobOHara@HopelessDemigod the current sample size is apparently zero, so nobody should answer 🤐
Júlio Gardona@HopelessDemigod I want to see the results, but I will appear only if I vote, and I have 45 😂
Eric R. Scott@HopelessDemigod I'm too old to vote 👴🏻 but no, I can't because of #dyscalculia!
Peter Bindels@HopelessDemigod I can, but am older than the range. All my kids can, as I expect any other kid in those age ranges over here, since it's required in the primary school curriculum.
Klabauterfrå vong iwas³³ her@HopelessDemigod Was sind das für Altersabschnitte? Existieren Menschen über 29Jahren nicht?
SliotarI'm well outside the range for your poll, but I have to be honest and say that, nowadays, on the rare occasion I have to rely on an analog clock, I have to stop and think about what it says. I know _how_ to read the clock, but it's not an automatic process anymore.
Max Kaehn@HopelessDemigod I'm 52 and have to convert the hand positions to numbers in my head. My mother is 80 and she has to convert digital clocks to the hands of a clockface in her head.
Albert CardonaIn 1992 I met a 13-year-old who didn't know how to read an analog clock–in Boise, Idaho, USA. An event so surprising I still remember it.
Gatinhoso 🏳️🌈@HopelessDemigod consigo, mas demoro um pouco (23 anos)
kaiserkiwi 
@HopelessDemigod No offense but I think Mastodon is the wrong platform for a poll that only goes to the age of 29. 😅
artemist@HopelessDemigod I can read analog clocks, but it's substantially more effort than digital ones, since I have to convert in my head to hours and minutes, then from there into 24 hour time. I've heard some older people just process the hand positions as time, but I've never done that.
anemone@HopelessDemigod im 13 can i vote
Tsuki 🌙>im in the old people section of the polls now
lolonurse@HopelessDemigod
Even without numbers.
Even without numbers.
Eli the Bearded@HopelessDemigod My 18 year old kid bought himself an analog watch a couple of months ago. Used, as-is second hand watch. Changed the battery himself but had me help shorten the metal wristband. Totally snubbed his mother's offer of a second hand Apple Watch.
ashley@HopelessDemigod @virtuosew answered yes for my 13yo
Natalie@HopelessDemigod my children of 15, 13 and 9yo are perfectly capable of reading analog and digital in both 24h and am/pm. Cant vote because not in the age range myself. I think most children in the Netherlands can. They learn in school.
💙 Smiffer 💙@HopelessDemigod When did the terminology change? To me a clock is a clock then you get a digital clock. At what point did people start putting analogue before things?
Bee (a dork)@HopelessDemigod I can read an analog clock faster than I can remember my own age :p
conor.@HopelessDemigod It never occurred to me that people *wouldn't* be able to read one. Looking forward to seeing the results!
Officially Tara 🕷️ 
🌹@HopelessDemigod i didn't vote because I'm too old, but my 4 year old can read an analog clock
Hisham@HopelessDemigod prediction: with these age brackets, you are going to get more boosts than votes
Mettie (himbo era) 
Calaban 
@HopelessDemigod I need a "kind of" option because I created my own janky way of reading it without ever having to properly read it because I didn't understand it when they taught it in elementary school and I didn't ask because they gave all the info it just didn't tie to my brain. 👍
So because of that I taught myself how to read ig to get by during school days and would measure specifically in increments of 5 but if you wanted my to tell you exactly when it's 12:33pm I would not have an answer.