Republicans: The Senate cannot convict and ban Trump because that's for the courts to decide!
Colorado Supreme Court: Okay, done.
Republicans: wait not like that
Republicans: The Senate cannot convict and ban Trump because that's for the courts to decide!
Colorado Supreme Court: Okay, done.
Republicans: wait not like that
None of these 147 congressional coup-plotters in the GOP should ever hold office ever again.
https://www.salon.com/2023/04/28/special-counsel-calls-for-tapes-that-implicate-ted-cruz-in-attempts-to-delay-bidens-certification/
@QasimRashid "we can't let a partisan State Court ban Trump from office, let's let the Supreme Court decide..."
Baahahahahaha!
You can't make this shit up.
@ChallengeApathy @toriver @QasimRashid I would fully agree with you if Supreme Court justices lived in isolation chambers completely separate from public opinion or <gestures wildly at the world>.
If elections keep reps and senators (at least somewhat) beholden to the public, why don't elections do the same for justices?
@horse @toriver @QasimRashid Fair perspective, neighbor (PA native here). I just don't think anything as important as dictating the future of our federal government should be left up to oligarchs, regardless of what sort of oligarchs those are. Something that big should be, at the very least, heavily and transparently impacted by the public at large. These people are supposed to represent all of us, not just a select few and that's why this precedent concerns me.
It's really not about politics for me in this specific case, just about the precedent it sets. We're in more dire straights than we've been in since the Civil War and this partisan goofiness isn't helping. We have differences but both sides demonize each other instead of recognizing that the system WANTS us to do that: a house divided cannot stand.
@ChallengeApathy @QasimRashid Okay, let’s use a policeman instead. Will you ignore instructions from "unelected" police officers? Enforcing the law - which restricts who can run - is the court’s job. What next, someone tries to run who is under 35 and not a citizen, and the court cannot stop them despite the law because that would be «political»?
Stop worshipping the elected over the professionally qualified, getting elected just means you lied the best.
@toriver @QasimRashid Police officers, too, are employed by the government put in place by the people. A supreme court justice is appointed for life by one person, at least at the federal level. While that's important for the sake of determining the legality of legislation, it's not right that they can determine whether a candidate runs for a public office, which is a legal right of every US citizen provided they haven't been tried AND convicted (that's the important part) of crimes that would disqualify them.
As I said prior, this isn't about politics to me. Not in this particular case, at least. To me, this represents a massive overreach and ego trip from a flyover state's supreme court looking for their fifteen minutes of fame for being "the court that took down Trump". It's disingenuous, it's a waste of taxpayer dollars and it's setting a dangerous precedent. You'd 110% be in agreement with me if a candidate you like were in this same position.
I'm not worshiping anyone. I'm not even really in favor of Trump this time around (more of a Ramaswamy guy) but even so, if it happens to one candidate, it can happen to ANY candidate, regardless of what side they're on. The idea that one state can determine the fate of the rest of the country is completely and totally contradictory to the entire CONCEPT of our united federation of sovereign states.
@mbrailer @QasimRashid Which would set an even MORE dangerous precedent. Imagine the courts start deciding candidates until we have states where entire political parties are effectively banned because of the courts' candidates.
That'd be the end of the United States, period. Those of us on the Fediverse realize the dangers of fracturing and defederation, those same dangers apply (to an even more serious degree) to the United States federal government.
@ChallengeApathy @QasimRashid The US Constitution permits this, and the bar for disqualification is appropriately very high.
Yes, I can see a future in which Republicans attempt to bar a Dem candidate on spurious 14th Amendment charges, much like the current House leadership is pursuing impeachment against Biden.
But unlike in the House, these efforts will have to pass through a court and then an appellate court, where the facts will be weighed by impartial judges, not partisan actors.
@mbrailer @QasimRashid Rules for thee, not for me.
Sounds like a blueprint for such an amazing utopia!