DannyMacTesla whistleblower calls cars with Autopilot “experiments in public roads”
BB69FSD, maybe. But autopilot operates fine and is no different than what most major manufacturers offer.
My vehicle can do almost all the same stuff as “autopilot” but it turns the autosteering and cruise off if I dont touch the wheel every 30 seconds. Its all the same types of sensors,etc. And mine isn’t even a luxury brand. Just the higher end trim package of a budget vehicle.
helenslunchWhat is your point
I made my point in my comment (not that it was anything earth shattering.)
What’s yours?
Nevermind, I don’t give a fuck.
I made my point in my comment
I don’t understand. You just replied to this person to brag about your car?
What’s yours?
I didn’t make a point, I asked a question.
Autopilot also shuts off with no driver input. Faster than 30 seconds too.
GhostalmediaLast time I tried autopilot was 4 years ago, so I imagine things have become better. That said, on a test drive, on a rainy day, auto lane change did some fighting stuff. Thought lanes were clear, learned they weren’t, then violently ripped the car back to the origin lane in conditions that were prime for hydroplaning.
My wife and I were scared shitless, and the woman from Telsa, who was also in the car, tried to reassure us by saying “it’s ok, this is normal.”
Then we return the car to the parking lot and auto park almost took out a kid in an enclosed parking structure.
I imagine it’s become better in 4 years, but how that was street legal baffled my mind.
None of what you mentioned is in basic autopilot. Autopilot is lane keep and traffic aware cruise control only.
Auto lane change is not a function of Autopilot
Yes they are. There are two tiers of autopilot functionality. Basic and Advanced. This is part of the Advanced Autopilot tier.
www.tesla.com/support/autopilot
Telsa refers to those features as “autopilot”, and this former employee is referring those features as “autopilot” is his whistle blower claims.
It’s called “Enhanced Autopilot” and is distinctly different from “AutoPilot”.
This is like arguing that an iPhone Pro isn’t a “iPhone,” it’s a “iPhone Pro.”
Call it whatever you want. This whistle blower, the press, and this comment thread are all referring to unsafe features of Tesla’s L2 automation that are currently available to the public.
This is like arguing that an iPhone Pro isn’t a “iPhone,” it’s a “iPhone Pro.”
Yes it is, and in certain contexts (such as this one) it is very important. Especially considering that Autopilot has been installed on every vehicle made in the last several years and Enhanced Autopilot will be in practically zero.
This whistle blower, the press, and this comment thread are all referring to unsafe features of Tesla’s L2 automation that are currently available to the public.
According to whom? Nothing in the OP title, the OP article or the BBC piece they robbed the story from indicates any of that.
Enhanced Autopilot is very popular. All the hardware is already installed on the car, it just needs to be unlocked by purchasing the subscription in the app. The Full Self Driving package is also unlockable via a software subscription. FSB will be out of beta soon, but advanced autopilot has been a popular purchase for many years. It’s one of the main reasons people buy a Telsa. It is most definitely not on “practically zero” Teslas.
As for “according to whom” - you replied to my comment about my experience with autopilot. So according to me.
Advanced autopilot did some frightening stuff during the little time I spent driving a model 3. I really wanted to like the model 3 and was expecting to whip out my checkbook, but that test drive scared the shit out of my wife and I. It made some very dangerous lane changes and summon almost hit a kid in a parking lot. The latter is definitely widely reported. I’m not the only person to have experienced that problem.
All the hardware is already installed on the car, it just needs to be unlocked by purchasing the subscription in the app. The Full Self Driving package is also unlockable via a software subscription.
I know all of this but I’m not sure why you’re telling me…
FSB will be out of beta soon,
LOL what are you talking about? Where are you getting this from? Elon? Autopilot isn’t even out of Beta…
It’s one of the main reasons people buy a Telsa
It’s absolutely not. If the few people I know who actually bought it, they were pretty much all disappointed and don’t use it.
As for “according to whom” - you replied to my comment about my experience with autopilot. So according to me.
I replied to your comment about the engineer speaking specifically about “Enhanced Autopilot” as opposed to what the article refers to as “Autopilot”.
What is your source for that? Because everything I can see says “autopilot”.
Advanced autopilot did some frightening stuff during the little time I spent driving a model 3.
Once again, there’s no such thing as “advanced autopilot”, and once again, that’s not what we’re discussing.
No.
I own a model 3 and a 2022 palisade with Lane assist and used to own a Subaru with Lane assist.
The model 3 auto steer, exit to exit EAP, and auto lane change are very different than the simple lane assist that either other cars offer and honestly after using EAP for five years, while I do use AP under specific circumstances, I have come to the opinion that it is not ready for prime time and has some major issues, especially the a uto lane changing, that should have been worked out before release and I still never use that feature.
Given my background in embedded software, I honestly think the way they rolled out and advertised these features was reckless.
EAP is not based autopilot and closer to FSD. Base autopilot is on par with most manufacturers. I’d argue it’s safer than some in regards to capabilities with less common lane setups or lack of clear road lines.