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Jenna Ellis said Dan Scavino told her: "The boss is not going to leave under any circumstances. We are just going to stay in power," per ABC.

After Ellis replied "it doesn't quite work that way," Scavino reportedly replied, 'We don't care.'" 🔽

ABC News has exclusively obtained videos of the proffer sessions Jenna Ellis and Sidney Powell did with #Fulton County prosecutors as part of their plea deals-- #Georgia #legal #TrumpIndictment #Trump https://abcnews.go.com/US/boss-leave-proffer-videos-show-trump-lawyers-telling/story?id=104831939

'The boss is not going to leave': Proffer videos show ex-Trump lawyers telling Georgia prosecutors about efforts to overturn 2020 election

ABC News obtained video from interviews held with Jenna Ellis and Sidney Powell.

ABC News

2/ Via Brad Moss:

This is devastating in my view. Trump never had any intention of complying with the election results. He was told repeatedly in the presence of a convicted co-defendant that he had lost. He ignored it and conspired with his lawyers to overthrow the election anyway.

@GottaLaff I really don't understand how this wanna-be dictator is the Repugnican party front-runner. This poor excuse of a human has single-handedly done more damage to our democracy than anyone in the history of our democracy. However, when you look at those who follow and believe this creep, it's no wonder we are where we are. I do believe in justice believe that he will eventually succumb to the same violent and hateful rhetoric that has made him so popular with his brain-dead followers.
@JeffreyV You don't? It's because they're terrified of him, that he'll turn the base against them. Those voters say, "He sounds just like me." He unleashed millions of racists, bigots, etc. to become louder and more aggressive. He knows how to manipulate them.
@GottaLaff He, and his base, are a metastatic cancer that must, and will eventually, be eradicated.
@JeffreyV I sure hope so. It won't be any time soon though
@JeffreyV Please talk about cure, not eradication. Eradication is a vilent existential threat. Trump uses that sort of phrase to make his supporters more committed & extreme.

@DavidPenington @JeffreyV

yes, exactly. eradication is ... why they want to build camps ...

@DavidPenington I agree, but sometimrs you need to speak their language in order to make that point. Unfortunately, sometimes violence is the only language they understand. I'm in no way advocating violence, I'm just using the only language they understand in order to make my point.
@GottaLaff @JeffreyV I will personally never give Trump the "credit" of "knowing" how to manipulate the electorate. In that way, he will never be like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, or Franco, who were fascist ideologue politicians and also incredibly, dangerous and skilled managers first and foremost. Trump is a fool and a corporate gangster, not a manager or an ideologue. He happens to say things in public in a way that speaks to a (shrinking) base of very dangerous people and repeats what he likes. There is no doubt the people who gravitated to his orbit like Kushner, Bannon, and others, are the ideologues who feed him with talking points and keywords but Trump himself is an idiot who only knows how to manipulate three things to achieve his ambitions: Wealth, Immorality, and Fear. And that's more than bad enough.
@chris I disagree. I’ve never said he was a mastermind or genius, but he does know how to manipulate. That’s not giving him “credit,” it’s an insult. He knows very well how to rile his base up, and that is absolutely manipulation. He’s a salesman. Salesmen manipulate. He knows how to sell his product to his gullibles, regardless of how much their numbers may be diminishing. @JeffreyV

@GottaLaff @JeffreyV Yes, I can agree that he is a salesman skilled at selling himself, which is his only real product, and in that way manipulating people including but not limited to: lying to, falsefying, and generally saying what needs to be said, to his clients, whether that's in Real Estate or politics. But the reason he and his closest acolytes will ultimately fail is because his personal brand is the only thing holding everything together and it *is* becoming toxic, his legal troubles *will* unravel the basis of his power, which is imagined wealth (both in real estate terms and his own mental terms).

What I worry about more is not Trump, mainly because I do think he will lose next year (or maybe not even make it to the election) but what comes after Trump.

People like DeSantis and Johnson and Bannon who will continue to manipulate in the political way that destroys democracies and have a much longer lifespan than the Orange Monster. Trump is a clear and present danger to the American Republic but I think enough people see *him* clearly enough now that it will ultimately keep him from winning.

However, I believe if those others are allowed to keep the fascist train rolling even after Trump exits the scene *that* is the long term threat to American democracy and stability and we could see another Civil War in this century.

@GottaLaff @chris @JeffreyV

Right. Perhaps he would not have come up with the techniques on his own, but his lawyer Cohn trained him in gangsterism; he read Hitler's works. He clearly is a psych basket case, might have ended up a nobody but for $ and mentoring.

@GottaLaff @chris Good morning Laffy, I'm afraid that you may have directed you response to me, but you should have sent it to @chrisalemany. I agree with your points of view, Chris offered a different perspective. Have a blessed day.
@JeffreyV No, if you look at my post, I @ @chris and added your handle at the end. I was responding to Chris.
@GottaLaff @chris Thank you for the clarification. I do not want to offend anyone. I appreciate you.
@GottaLaff
It exposes the very ugly underbelly of humanity. I frequently say humans evolved enough intrlelligence to be stupid. Other mammals just do what it takes to survive and procreate. We have wild imaginations that invent religions and other nonsense. Some shun that and imagine various creative inventions, do science, investigate what is atually happening. But MANY just drink whatever sludge is offerred. They think he is a god, they vote, so politicians and advertisers cater to them.