@jeffowski EXACTLY!
We need to #AbolishCapitalism before it abolishes Humanity and we get some "#Elysium" - esque #Dystopia ...
This article carefully describes the mindset and behavior of "those people". We all know them, but our tolerant society ties our hands and the recidivism rate for "those people" is exceptionally high.
I think of these sorts of things whenever I see those stock video clips of suburban streets. House after house after house, each with a 2 or 3 car garage.
Multiply that through by all the houses in this country with those garages. Cars have better housing stock than people.
@jeffowski @godofbiscuits
I was going to ask you for links, but decided I could do my own research. Just sharing for anyone else curious.
https://hirr.hartfordinternational.edu/fast-facts-on-american-religion/
@jeffowski I always add that while this is inherently oppositional towards obscene wealth, it's like the old adage (however often misused), "Hate the sin, love the sinner": It opposes the WEALTH as the problem. In the end, it's good for them, too, not just everyone else. Obscene wealth seems to cause obvious and serious mental health problems that can't be good for anyone.
I mention that to help frame it as a "good for EVERYONE" argument.
It's not just taking place right now.
It's been like this since the 1850's.
That's how long we as a species have been technologically capable of creating a more equitable world.
@jeffowski
Yep.
CAPITALISM.
Make a much money as you can using any and all means available (slavery, fraud, corruption..) Nothing and nobody matters as much as money.
Mind blowing truth.
As a former economist, I assure you other economists will not be open to the idea of a post scarcity world because it renders their complex theories worthless and undermines the elegantly sophisticated application of stochastic partial differential equations to random economic data to explain nothing.
@jeffowski And the billionaires forget that they, too. are mortal (no matter what they think). Death is the great equalizer.
All the wealth on the planet cannot bring back the dead.
When you die, you don't get to take anything with you.
True wealth is internal.
@jeffowski
I'm not sure it's greed, directly. It's a sense of supremacy. Whether the rich feel like they deserve it, they're good people for striving for it, or are floating along in a numb/ignorant state, they end up feeling like they are there because they can handle that wealth better than the "proven" poor.
In any case, it's not doing the rest of us any good to call it greed, either with the vitriol on our end, or the digust and defenses it throws up on the other.
@jeffowski according to https://www.quora.com/How-many-acres-can-one-person-farm?top_ans=278151323 Peter Kaye "had 530 acres and had absolutely no problems doing everything myself. At the busiest times I plowed all night to get the soil ready for planting, as long as you have the right machinery it’s a lot of work but it can be done."
So... yeah - there's no effing reason anyone, ever, should be hungry (unless they want to be)
Answer (1 of 29): It depends on whether you consider “one person” to mean ONE person doing everything, or one person running the farm, doing most of the actual hands on work but hiring out some work at busy times such as planting and harvest. Under ideal conditions one man with big new equipment...
@jeffowski you completely misunderstood the point - we have the technology such that a single person can farm over 500 acres, which is enough to provide food for ??? people.
But we don't do that, because billionaires.
We may also consider that too few are working to change from being consumers to producers.
HERE'S HOPING ORANGE-FACED SOAB AND HIS FELLOW ENABLER
BILLIONAIRES WILL FALL ON THEIR FACES. LONG-LIVE DEMOCRACY TO FIGHT BACK THE EVIL ONES.