ZeroCoolModern Warfare 3 Accused of Being A $70 DLC by Fans: "It Feels Like Half a COD Game"
RolyRamenIt’s exactly a DLC that Activision realised they could make people pay £70 for instead of half that. Only a few weeks after MW2 came out it was being floated that there was no COD for 2023, and instead a Ghost focused expansion would come out to fill the void.
Don’t like it don’t buy it but FFS stop with faux shock and horror. COD is of the most aggressively monetised franchises in mainstream gaming, from a company with zero scruples. Facts that have been valid for a decade or more and the regular news cycle attached to it all gets tiring.
Ignore the bugger and maybe they’ll be forced to do better next time when this sell’s poorer (you can hope at least). It’s not like this is some long awaited sequel either, just skip this one. There’s so much more to play this year in particular.
Leading up to mw2 launch, they were repeatedly saying it was the first 2 year release. They said there would only be a paid dlc at the end of the year. A few weeks into launch they back pedeled and released a statement saying that wasn’t true. Something they could have done before launch, but didn’t, for sales. There are maps in mw3 that have been in the code of mw2 since launch andnwere never released. Fuck them.
The achievements on Xbox and PS5 even show up as a DLC of MW2. I wonder how late in the development process did they realize that if they could sell almost the same game every year then they probably could literally sell the same game twice.
They realized that in 2012 tbh. I haven’t purchased an MW game since (old) MW2 because I hated their practice of yearly releases while only adding incremental changes.
It was a better package deal when Zombies was at its heyday. It was the only reason I got CODs, though I would play multi as well. Now that Zombies is a pile of steaming shit I have no reason to buy COD.
I think those of us who spend a little more time on forums and such talking about games really over estimate how knowledgeable the average consumer is about these things. Millions of people never, ever question the quality of games they want. They played call of duty for a decade, so they just kinda have an expectation. Same thing when I go out to buy a loaf of bread. Just more expensive lol
So it’s not a faux-shock. For some people this is the first time they bought a game that they had an expectation for and it fell radically short. Why else would they start complaining? They haven’t had a reason to before and they just aren’t generally aware of all of this. If you ask the average call of duty player what they think of Activision, they probably have little to no opinion on them and haven’t even heard of Blizzard. Just like how I don’t have an opinion on every single director, movie studio, etc.
Agreed. To us, it’s not surprising because we decided to look into it because we’re either big into a series, or we got burned enough in the past. for others? It’s either legit the first time they’ve gotten burned, or the straw that broke the camel’s back and made them at least somewhat critical/wary of the media they consume.
Exactly. Much more concise way of putting it lol
TonyTonyChopperSame thing when I go out to buy a loaf of bread. Just more expensive lol
you mean the bread right? A loaf of bread once a week easily goes beyond one COD game per year
I'm referring to a singular purchase and I'm not sure why we need to debate this lol
You don’t have to ignore it just don’t pay for shit. Sail the seas if you have to
circuitfarmerI think this is also what happened with AC: Mirage. Ubi originally had planned it as DLC for Valhalla.
At least they had the decency not to charge $70 for it, but still, it’s MBA businessthink in charge of AAA gaming right now. Unless people stop buying them, nothing changes.
eoddc5At least - and I can’t believe i am defending Ubisoft - they released “hey this dlc, let’s make it bigger and better and into its own game”
My thoughts exactly, we live in a world where content creators have to make content on new releases to stay afloat. Never pre-order and VOTE WITH YOUR MONEY
mihntLook, the fans of the games deserve better.
Is anyone even surprised that Activision is doing another shitty thing though?
It’s seemed like ever since COD2 came out it went downhill from there. Sure, there are a few they got right and attracted some loyal fans from it, but damn.
I feel like the whole “fans deserve better” was what people said seven releases ago. They just been failing upwards and seeing how badly they can treat players and get away with it. And apparently, it’s a lot!
Do the fans deserve better? If they mindlessly pre-order and buy every yearly release regardless of quality or reviews… they get what they paid for.
Same with most sports game that are just yearly roster updates at full-price, same with Pokemon, other rushed franchise installments, etc.
Sounds about right.
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 Campaign ‘Disc Required’ Error Asks for MW2 PS4 Disc [Update] - IGN
Activision has released an update that addresses an issue where the Modern Warfare 3 campaign displays an error to some PlayStation 5 players that, bizarrely, asks for the PlayStation 4 disc of last year's Modern Warfare 2.
“No one will ever find out! We did this”
“Shit…”
The devilish act of… Reusing a perfectly workable engine?
No it’s clear that it was meant to be a DLC for PS4 but they reworked it into a new game for PS5 so they could make more money. What’s better for them: $30 for a DLC or $70-$100 to rehash it as a separate game?
vladIf you bought horse armor back in the day, you directly caused this problem.
Everybody complaining about a business practice that works, same as the mobile games with their micro transactions.
Just don’t pay full price for the DLC, let them come back to you with a discount later. It was so obvious when they said they were copying all the skins and maps to MWIII
If you pay that without waiting for reviews then it is a well deserved price.
UrPartnerInCrimeThankfully this is the first COD I’ve bought in like 4+ years. Still shameful
I’m done with COD after last year’s. If I don’t buy battle pass blah blah…I spent 70 fucking dollars already, that’s the price of the game not a ticket to continually pay. Fuck off.
MereoWell, you vote with your wallet. This is what happens when gamers pre-order incomplete games and scream about the state of the game on social media: you get crap products like this.
Money is the only thing that appeals to companies. If people would just vote with their wallets, we wouldn’t have this situation.
Fucking seriously.
You don’t want to support this shit? Don’t pay them for this shit… If you really want to play the shit, sail the seas ffs
We vote with our wallets. It’s the huge majority of the mainstream audience that also voted with their wallet by buying that makes out opinions irrelevant.
We do…the problem is we’re a drop in an ocean compared to the vast majority do not, or as NightOwl put it, they do, but they help perpetuate the lazy products AAA companies typically spew out by just buying
I feel like CoD has been a joke for like the past 5-7 years. They just keep rehashing the same thing year after year and players gobble it up. My friend is addicted to it and plays it online constantly, I stopped playing it when they shifted focus from the offline single player and two player story/missions to the online Battle Royale style games. I don’t find getting spawn killed and getting screamed at by 10 year olds fun.
Cod has been a joke since development was taken from Infinity Ward. Infinity Ward worked on the engine for CoD3 but Treyarch developed the game. The last great CoD was the original Modern Warfare.
Do you mean the original MW or the rehashed one? The last one I probably played was MW2. My friend (not the one mentioned above, another friend) loved playing the co-op wave style missions, and the stealth missions.
I remember playing the one that had Christopher Meloni in it and it ran like shit on my PC which was high end. After that, I lost interest. When I moved in with the one that was addicted, I’d play with him just as a “bonding experience”, then he wanted me to play online with him , which I did occasionally. I remember trying to do the “secrets” and then having some asshole bitch me out because I moved an inch off of a platform or didn’t kill someone in time. Fuck that.
The original. With private server support.
Yep, that was a good time. I hate that it’s so difficult to find local two player games now, everything is online.
I have basically been addicted to CoD for the past couple of years, but recently finally cracked and got annoyed enough that I don't play nearly as often, or nearly as long anymore. Expensive and overly monetized, absolutely, but there are so many other issues. This is my way-too-long rant that I always go on about CoD:
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Camo that is always intentionally very dark so that people will buy it, and then it will get nerfed once sales die down
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Same with OP weapon blueprints-- sell the new OP blueprint, then nerf it eventually, and then take the PR stance of claiming that you listen to fan feedback.
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Feeling like I'm playing Pokémon with all the swords and shields... I hate shields. Shields making someone practically invincible on almost half of their body, and them having zero movement penalty when they are on someone's back is absolute horseshit. Swords, where people can run faster because it's a light weapon, and you can have the Double Time perk to move even faster, so that they can just rush you and slap you with an instant kill is also absolute horseshit. I DO love sticking a shield person with Thermite, but so many other things should work against them and they just don't.
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The game crashing, and crashing often. Which for MWII was only fixed in the last couple of months, in my experience.
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The incredibly annoying "Restart Game" prompt when you load up CoD, it downloads the stupid store bullshit, and then the game needs to be restarted before you can continue
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The stupid UI. Let me get to Quick Play, IDK, quickly, maybe? I should not have to click through a million stupid tiles just to get to Quick Play
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Oh, and stop fucking changing my playlist filter to include some random game mode every now and then. If I have my filter set to just TDM, don't you damn dare any other mode onto that filter.
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Night maps. Fuck night maps. MWII has one night map, and there's zero options in these games to filter out night maps or any other map you may despise (like Border Crossing).
Despite all of this (and so, so much more) I still have 600+ hours into MWII alone, but the more I play it now, the more I find I just get angry at how shitty the entire experience actually is. The parts of it that are fun and addicting are not worth all the other bullshit. I do not intend to purchase MWIII.
I don’t play COD all that much, but I was one of the crowd who made my purchase of MWII in part because it was supposedly going to stick around for 2 years. I feel slighted that they had nearly complete versions of nostalgic maps in Warzone only to never release them in regular multiplayer and instead hold them for MWIII. I refuse to support this bait by spending on COD any further.
- Feeling like I’m playing Pokémon with all the swords and shields… I hate shields. Shields making someone practically invincible on almost half of their body, and them having zero movement penalty when they are on someone’s back is absolute horseshit. Swords, where people can run faster because it’s a light weapon, and you can have the Double Time perk to move even faster, so that they can just rush you and slap you with an instant kill is also absolute horseshit. I DO love sticking a shield person with Thermite, but so many other things should work against them and they just don’t.
Wait, I don’t play CoD. Can you clarify what you mean by swords and shields? Shields I can imagine being some sort of body armor, but are people carrying around steel swords like they’re medieval knights in a game titled “Modern Warfare”?
yea you can literally run around with a katana
wow, just like a certain game that launched twelve years ago, called “Modern Warfare 3”
I stated playing battlebit and I don’t even consider bothering with mainstream titles anymore. This release is garbage, the last 5 releases have just been progressively worse and worse, like hey even bother?
It feels like I have more fun in 1 game of battlebit than I did over the entirety of my 200+ hours of BO2, which was the last mainstream shooter I played that didn’t feel entirely like a waste of money.
I bought battlebit but the audio didn’t work, so I refunded it :(
That’s crazy, I’m playing on linux with no issues hahaha
It is still early access, so if the issue hasn’t been fixed already I’m sure it will be before too long!
Battlebit was one of my faste
fastestest refunds. Such a bad game.
tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺As someone enjoying it tremendously, why?
The gameplay is smooth, there is a plethora of maps and modes, teamplay is encouraged but not strictly needed. Mapsize ranges from 16v16 to 127v127.
The only arguement i could see is the low poly graphics and that’s like, what did you expect?
Bad graphics, bad gun balance, bad gunplay, bad community, too many unaddressed bugs, reporting system is very bad.
Did you play like, AT launch? Battlebit has by far the best gun balance of any FPS I’ve played in recent memory. Every single gun I’ve used is viable, it just depends on playstyle. After the SMG nerf it’s a wildly even playing field.
What’s your problem with the gunplay? It’s the same as every other FPS game out right now. Staged reloads, handling that makes sense, bullet drop + travel time… literally what is there to complain about here?
I could go on but this is turning into a rant, and I have a sneaking suspicion that you’re some rogue COD stan and I might as well be yelling into a void. Either way it’s valid to like what you like, your tastes just heavily confuse me lol
The majority of the videos on the game are about how bad the game balance is. There should be no surprise that only 2/3s of the reviews are positive.
That’s just not true, the game is at 89% positive. The game has gun balancing problems, but so does every shooter ever. They regularly release patches to shake up the meta.
Why are you using youtube videos and not actual game reviews as a metric for how good the game is? The videos stay up forever, reviews are MUCH more likely to change to reflect changes to the game.
The videos are recent and show issues with the game.
Reviews tend to be put up and almost never changed.
my experience is the exact opposite, but i won’t invalidate yours! end of the day you’re free to enjoy what you want.
i may think your take is stupid and wrong, but it’s still your take to have! lol
kaduIt’s super hard to find a team deathwatch only server, which is where Call of Duty excels.
If I wanted to plant a bomb or defend an objective, I’d play Valorant.
Heh. I was just discussing this with a friend 2 days ago. We surmised that they would half ass it even more than MW2 because this one was already half assed and still sold well, and Battlefield, which is basically their only competitor, is in shambles right now (and was in a an even more sorry state around when they probably started working on MW3).
Sounds like we were mostly correct
ilovededyoupiggyI’m old. I miss the WW2 CODs.
World at War remains my favorite in the series. The more modern ones and futuristic 3D maneuvering ones were never my cup of tea
The people who care enough to complain are also largely the ones who keep buying it, so they train companies to realize that complaining is something that can be ignored because it’s all bark and no bite.
The sales figures of this might still be ok, but the next might be poorer, but that won’t be blamed on this.
They’ll probably think we didn’t have enough DLCs and microtransactions to make people happy, and out DRM needs to be more intrusive to improve our sales.
As opposed to the original MW3, which was a totally unique experience from CoD MW2 because…well don’t worry about that part, it was its own disk!