jacquelines 🌟hey check this out https://www.crowdsupply.com/cool-tech-zone/tangara
Charlotte :kinua:@jacqueline so good!!!!!
AxWax@jacqueline Sweet! 👏
Lucie / minute@jacqueline woop woop!
Wilhelm@jacqueline I need it.
Kristin Davidson {kxd}
Moose Jolly Holcomb@jacqueline cool, definitely signed up for updates.
acb@jacqueline That looks awesome.
Has anyone looked at running the Rockbox open-source firmware on it? It seems to be quite feature-rich, and if there are no dealbreakers, could save a lot of development time.
Has anyone looked at running the Rockbox open-source firmware on it? It seems to be quite feature-rich, and if there are no dealbreakers, could save a lot of development time.
momo@jacqueline looks like a really nice project. :)
jesse jarnow@jacqueline yes please.
Gourd@jacqueline (signs up for this and also winces at their entire music library largely being in AAC)
Mostly curious if it's a CPU power or licensing thing.
@gourd i just haven’t done it yet! shouldn’t be a problem to add
@jacqueline Cool! :)
I just jumped to "well, I know it's one of the more demanding codecs in Rockbox, and it's still patent encumbered unlike all these other codecs, and either of those could explain it."
Mutesplash@jacqueline @gourd This and AAC Bluetooth (AirPod support) would basically make it a drop-in replacement for iPhone. I would gladly convert stuff for now, though!
@Mutesplash @jacqueline Huh, AirPods don't support SBC?
A cool crab wearing shades@jacqueline mashes that subscribe button
the Stripey Goodness@jacqueline this looks awesome.
You all are using the ESP32 but the page doesn't mention whether there are plans for this to e.g. update the library over wifi. Or does it and I just didn't find it?
You all are using the ESP32 but the page doesn't mention whether there are plans for this to e.g. update the library over wifi. Or does it and I just didn't find it?
@stripey syncing over wifi would be great! atm the firmware requires you to remove the sd card to update music, but we're working on syncing over usb.
part of why we went with the esp32 is to have the flexibility to do stuff with wifi later!
part of why we went with the esp32 is to have the flexibility to do stuff with wifi later!
@jacqueline slick! Looking forward to this!
Tom@jacqueline This looks great! I currently use a Hiby R3 Pro, which has a pretty good form factor and physical buttons, but I hate the UI. I definitely miss the clickwheel for speed of interaction.
FlatFootFox Moved to Hachyderm@jacqueline It’s been so fun following this project! Congrats on the upcoming launch!
Lily Suchipi Skye@jacqueline that's so cute and cool!
Light Owl ☸️@jacqueline This is reminiscent of a Sandisk Sansa e280 I used to have, with Rockbox on it. I used it for like 10 years until it died. It even had a user-replaceable battery.
Please bring Rockbox back.
@jacqueline HEYYYYYYY indeed! 👍
Ambient Sponge@jacqueline That's very cool!
Samhain Night@jacqueline Very interested! Any idea about the potential price range?
@samhainnight look at how much a refurbished ipod with the works goes for in your area. about that much!
@jacqueline Thank you!
xanatax 🐰@jacqueline … that looks pretty awesome! Look way more advanced than the old, “Walkman” casette-tape player. or whatever. 😘
If I wanted to modify it … is it possible to add solder-on an extra audio-port, and add a new feature to record audio from “Line-In”? 🤔 I feel like that could be useful too.
@xanatax we don’t have a good onboard adc, so recording probably won’t work great. adding a second audio output is probably doable though!
Stephanie Loves to Make@jacqueline @xanatax it's powered by the esp32, ya? Access to i2s should be enough for some really cool mods, including i2s ADCs and even FM/AM/etc tuners.
@stephlahs @xanatax yep! if you’re willing to bodge egregiously then there’s a *lot* you can do (there’s even a 5v rail if you really need it)
virkon
radioactivestardust@jacqueline why is this great in a world where everyone has a smartphone?
josch@bookstardust @jacqueline Not everybody has a smartphone. I don't have one and my sandisk sansa is dying a slow death. So for me, this project comes at a perfect time. 😀
chiborg@bookstardust @jacqueline This is great in a world where you want to rely less on your smartphone because it’s too distracting, but you’re addicted to music. This is great in a world where you love the apple ecosystem but dislike some of its shortcomings: where you want to lug around your 1TB music collection but can’t afford an iPhone that has that much storage. Where the only software that allows you put music on your device is utter crap.
@chiborg @jacqueline thanks for explaining.
Heals 
@jacqueline @neckspike not to be that gal but they're making a clunky rip-off of the 2006 iPod with two unnecessary extra side buttons and an iPod classic storage slot and even copy the look of the OS and it's hip now because it's all open source software and hardware?
1. you are being that gal
2. hardware buttons are an a11y feature. they’re good, actually!
3. what’s an ‘ipod classic storage slot’? no ipod ever had first party storage expansion
4. the ui flow in that screenshot is pretty different. do u just mean it’s blue and white and has a title bar?
5. yes.
@jacqueline @neckspike jep, it's one of these mornings and I could have worded that a lot milder - note to self to not open mastodon on bad mood workdays.
As for a few of the points - I have an original iPod CF storage around.. so it was at least replaceable, if not by a slot then with a screwdriver, but I admit I might have mis-remember it being through a slot. It was literally just a Compact Flash card though.
For the UI - unless I missed a very obvious link with more pictures or a video it's hard to tell how things work outside of “that looks a whole lot like the original iPod UI with the hardware buttons moved onto the screen” (see attached picture) - maybe a video would help preventing people from pulling comparisons to media players that did actually exist in the 2001s.
Refurbished iPod classics go for $150 and up and there are no new battery options, this also open hardware using standard parts that can be replaced. Ask @gourd about using old iPod hardware right now
@neckspike @jacqueline @gourd I still have old iPod hardware around - I have a rough idea how much fun it is to use them.
And yes, I was too harsh in my wording.
@heals @jacqueline I'm very excited about it because I've wanted something like this for the last ~5 years but there's really nothing on the market unless you want to fuck with 20 year old hardware. Audiophile DAPs are $500+ and basically a phone without a sim card, the cheap options break as soon as you look at them (have had several Clip+ that powered on less than 5 times before bricking forever and getting returned).
@neckspike @jacqueline people would probably murder me if I said “I'm excited about it despite of my comment this morning” even if I am 
I get where you're coming from
@jacqueline
Also yeah the post was for the dozens of us who have been following @jacqueline & co's development of the Tangara for months, it's not a full pitch for a kit that's not quite ready to start a campaign.
ailurux@heals @jacqueline @neckspike just to let you know, ui is still an in progress thing for us right now, plus we have support for custom theming. but there's only so many elements on that screen and they're all kinda... stuff you'd expect to see on a music player, there's really not much to "copy".
Nici@jacqueline @heals @neckspike I really hope you add thee lock switch! Nothing is worse than accidentally skipping a song, pausing or changing the volume! It gives me a sense of security
Hailey@heals @jacqueline this is a really mean thing to say to someone, a real person out there just like you, working on their own cool project and sharing it with the world. Why reply? Who asked you?
Zero Moving Parts@heals @jacqueline @neckspike I've never owned anything from Apple (and never will) but I dig this precisely because it is open source and open hardware. Keep it up Jacqueline!
@required thank u sweet mx. parts
Robin ╰(ಠ_ಠ✿)╯@heals @jacqueline @neckspike fwiw jacqueline had to sternly negotiate me down from having fifteen hardware buttons; compromises eh 🤷♀️
@buzzyrobin @jacqueline @neckspike I'm actually curious of how that would have looked - are there any concepts from that time?
'cause the original iPod also had extra front facing buttons for a few elements you have on-screen right now.
@heals @jacqueline @neckspike something like this
(In all seriousness, no, I was joking. We discussed front ring buttons but opted for side ones; initially just volume, but then rebindable for accessibility.)
[GARLIC] Lunya 
🧄@jacqueline looks cool! don't think i'd use it since i have my phone with me anyways so it's more convenient to play from there, but cool regardless
Jade@jacqueline I have a mighty need, that looks awesome!
Mark Wyner Won’t Comply 
@jacqueline so badass. I’m signing up.
Lilith Ashley Nyx Arson 
requiem 🦫@jacqueline this is something I’ve wanted to build for years.
I wonder how long until you can actually get your hands on one?
@requiem hopefully not too long!! working on it!!!
@jacqueline we’re rooting for you!