The Israeli government has cut off food, water, and fuel to 2 million people inside Gaza as part of its campaign to stamp out Hamas terrorism. Collective punishment is not only contrary to international law, it is inhumane and illogical. It is what my community once endured in World War II, all because of the actions of others who happened to share our ethnicity. Have we learned nothing? How will this possibly help deescalate the violence rather than radicalize many more? It is madness.
@georgetakei Israel need to stop all flow in and out of Gaza. Hamas is responsible for this. Ask yourself why you are not angry with Hamas that is doing this

@maffia @georgetakei

They already declared that, shithead.

@RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei the people of Gaza should be angry with Hamas. Not Israel
@maffia @RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei you know Hamas is responsible for killing plenty of Gazans right? Those who stand up to them end up dead.
@localzuk @RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei yes, why is it bad that Israel Defends itself and try to kill Hamas? You think Hitler could be reasoned with? Hamas is Nazis.

@maffia @localzuk @georgetakei

Dumbass, you have no understanding of the breadth of this issue if you think it’s one sided.

@RodneyPetersonTalent @localzuk @georgetakei you believe it's ok for Nazis to kill Jews? Are you actually defending terrorists? You are morally wrong

@maffia @RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei that's not what they said?? You're engaging in yet more of the idiotic behaviour that Israel has done for decades - accuse anyone who calls out Israel's behaviour of being a supporter of terrorism.

No. It is possible to be against both Hamas and Israeli policy and behaviour. It needs to stop on both sides.

@localzuk @RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei 800 civilians at least have been killed for being Jews. That's one-sided. Hamas goal is not liberate Palestine. It's to exterminate all jews

@maffia @RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei and again, stop equating Hamas with all Palestinians.

No-one here is supporting Hamas.

@localzuk @maffia @RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei Many people believe that war it's a football match that you can support one side without any question. War is much more complex and we can see the worst thing from humanity.

@maffia @localzuk @georgetakei

So that justifies cutting off all supplies to over two million people who were not at all active in the conflict the majority who do not share that belief and have also been essentially imprisoned into a tiny strip of land?

@RodneyPetersonTalent @localzuk @georgetakei yes, if that means that Hamas don't get weapons and they are forced to negotions . As long as Hamas can send rockets and kill Jews they will. What else could force Hamas to stop? More air attacks, or you want tanks to enter Gaza?
@maffia @localzuk @RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei I can pretty much guarantee that, once Israel is done retaliating against Hamas, more Gaza civilians will have died than Israeli civilians. That's usually how these things play out. Yes. Hamas has a big share of the blame for their deaths, but Israel also doesn't do enough to avoid killing civilians.

@maffia @RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei your reply makes no sense. How are normal Gazans supposed to do anything? Why are they being punished by Israel now? The kids at the UN school that was hit, did they commit crimes? The refugees in the refugee camp that was bombed? Did they commit crimes?

You've got to wake up and stop being so polarised. Hamas is a terrorist organisation. You don't battle that by creating new terrorists through indiscriminate attacks.

@localzuk @RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei Israel have opened up Gaza the last year's and have been trying to make peace. Do you blame Japan for USA bombing Hiroshima?
@maffia @RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei drivel. Israel has been stealing.land, building settlements, destroying homes, limiting access to water, electricity and fuel, etc... Israel aren't innocent in this. Hamas are not innocent either.
@maffia @localzuk @RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei What does that have to do with cutting off food, water, and fuel supplies to all residents of Gaza? Nobody says Israel can't defend itself or attack Hamas, but starving all residents is aggression against the civilian population of Gaza of the same sort as Hamas's murders of civilians merely for being present in Israel.
@xyz123 @localzuk @RodneyPetersonTalent @georgetakei how you think has got their weapons. That's right because Israel didn't control the Gaza strip enough, they let people and good pass without checking everything
@maffia @georgetakei Mr. Takei never said he wasn't "angry with Hamas." He has described the attack as an a atrocity and depraved. I don't understand why you'd try to mischaracterize his position.
@Breck @georgetakei the atrocity is a consequence of Hamas actions
@maffia @georgetakei Uh, yes? What's your point?
@Breck @georgetakei Israel have no blame, they do what they must
@maffia @georgetakei Agree to disagree. Their actions (and the actions of the US Government) over the last several decades aren't making things better. Maybe there's another way.
@Breck @georgetakei not from Israel's point of view. Jews don't like being killed. But fascists you like do
@maffia @Breck @georgetakei punishing innocent people for the actions of others is not going to solve anything. It's a war crime for one. It generates even more hate for another.
@localzuk @Breck @georgetakei 800 innocent are dead because Israel where too soft on Gaza and let Hamas get weapons. If Israel had been mere oppressive Hamas couldn't get weapon. It seems like you want Hamas to kill civilians
@maffia @Breck @georgetakei ah, so you're a fan of genocide then. Now that's evil.
@localzuk @Breck @georgetakei genocide is when innocent die. Killing Hamas is not genocide. Blockade a country so they don't buy weapons is not genocide.

@maffia @Breck @georgetakei NOT ALL PALESTINIANS ARE HAMAS.

There are 2 million people in the Gaza strip. Hamas is but a tiny fraction.

@localzuk @Breck @georgetakei Hamas could win an election. They are not tiny. They are backed by Russia and iran

@maffia @Breck @georgetakei of course, they win the elections! The elections are not free and fair!

When you've got a bunch of military nut jobs going round ordering you to vote a certain way, what're you gong to do?

@localzuk @Breck @georgetakei does it change my point? They still have massive support

@maffia @Breck @georgetakei blockading all food, water, fuel and electricity? That's part of genocide.

How do they feed themselves with no food. How do they drink?

How do the people in hospitals get treatment without electricity?

@localzuk @Breck @georgetakei it's stopped for the moment untill israel can inspect everything. Israel won't let Palestinians starve. They will suffer, but not die

@maffia @Breck @georgetakei except, it will cause Palestinians to die. Just like any society, there are those who are vulnerable. Those who need medical care, for example. This sort of blockade is illegal under international law for a reason.

Or is it OK when Israel commits war crimes, but not Hamas? Hypocritical of you.

@localzuk @Breck @georgetakei it's not israels fault if hospitals in Palestine have no backup power. Israel responsibility is to defend its own citizens, the people of Gaza is Palestines responsibility. Is Egypt also responsible for genocide? It's a border there too you know

@maffia @Breck @georgetakei legally? It is Israel's fault. Under international law, the Gaza strip is an occupied territory, and therefore, Israel is responsible for its people. That's been affirmed at the UN several times.

Israel has control over the water, electricity and fuel supplies. So, how exactly would a hospital run a generator without fuel?

You REALLY need to stop blindly supporting one side.

@localzuk @Breck @georgetakei Palestine could build thousands of generators and desalination plants for the cost of the rockets they send against Jews. Fuel can be bunkered to last a week at least easy. Why don't you blame Egypt also? Answer that please
@maffia @Breck @georgetakei Sure, Egypt has a lot to answer for as well, however, they close the border so as to not antagonise the most militarily advanced nation in the middle east.
@localzuk @Breck @georgetakei lol, Israel close border because they don't want to be killed. Israel won't start a war against Egypt , Egypt don't want to kill Jews. You sound like you blame Jews for everything, wonder where I have heard that before....

@maffia @Breck @georgetakei Really? You haven't heard of the 6 day war then? When Israel launched pre-emptive strikes against Egpyt?

And now you've trotted out yet another moronic claim. That I somehow blame Jews for everything? This has nothing to do with Judaism. It has to do with Israeli foreign policy, how they have treated Palestinians for decades, how they have broken international law for decades etc... Your argument is itself antisemitic, as you equate Israel with all Jews.

@localzuk @Breck @georgetakei the war is between Jews and Hamas. Hamas kill Jews for being jews
@maffia @georgetakei Uh, not sure what you're trying to say there. I understand that Jewish people don't like being killed. Are you saying that I like fascists? Because that is just not true. Or are you calling me a fascist? Because that is also not true. Are you saying that fascists like being killed? Could you please try restating that, because as it stands, it seems there's a lot of ambiguity.
@Breck @georgetakei fascists like to blame victims for being killed.
@maffia @Breck @georgetakei Hamas is guilty of terrorism, but Israel is not blameless. You can only kick a dog so many times until it bites you. Hardliners in Israel - not all Israelis - have created a situation that has radicalized many Palestinians. Cutting off food, water, and electricity will only radicalize more.
@Sameagle @Breck @georgetakei how was Hitler stopped? By hugs and kisses? Hamas is equally evil as nazis
@maffia @Breck @georgetakei And Israel isn't? Do yourself a favor and look back at Israel's actions while Netanyahu has been in power. It might save you from further making a fool of yourself.
@Sameagle @Breck @georgetakei are you saying that 1000 dead Jews is ok? I don't like Netanyahu he is not good for peace. But to blame him for Hamas killing Jews? Was it the people in Hiroshima s fault that USA nuked them? Don't make 1 evil excuse another evil. Israel can do evil things without its ok for Hamas to murder. Stop excusing terrorists
@maffia @Breck @georgetakei Not at all. Hamas didn't make Israel do jackshit - that's victimblaming. Israel has been besieging and mostly blockading Gaza of its own volition. Palestinian shepherds in the West Bank have frail sheep now because of Israeli counterparts overgrazing and shooting. Both Israeli settlers and Palestine are nations with some immunity to smallpox (the way the Brits, French and Spanish depopulated North America during their gruesome efforts), so guns will have to do.
@lightning @Breck @georgetakei Israel have not besieged Gaza enough
@maffia @Breck @georgetakei Israel has not starved innocent civilians (the vast majority of gazans) enough, you say?

You are so depraved you make me look like an angel of light. (I'm *deliberately* a horrible person, so analyze the simile for a second.)
@lightning @Breck @georgetakei how you think weapons get into Gaza? If not through Israel.
@lightning @maffia @georgetakei I kinda think that there's plenty of blame to go around. US must bear some blame, Israeli leadership also, and same for the Palestinian Authority. For that matter, I believe there is an argument to be made that Britain has some responsibility. But at this point I'm not sure I care. I think it's more important how we might find a way to live together. Jews, Arabs, Christians, we all want to live without fear of sudden retributive murder.
@Breck @lightning @georgetakei yes of course. But that's a long term goal. Israel have madr peace with all neighbors except Gaza. Peace is possible. But not as long Hamas is in power in gaza
@maffia Sure Mark, if your definition of "making peace" includes carving up cisjordanian palestine (the west bank) into 400 bantustans on marginal land.

Piss off.
@lightning butthurt much?
@maffia Yeah my digestion isn't very good, it never has been. But that comes with being autistic, doesn't it. Just like telling people on the internet they're butthurt when they don't toe your party line comes with being a bigot.