@urlyman @BrentToderian Maybe in the UK, where roads descend from ancient footpaths, it makes sense. But over here in the US, cities were designed around roads, and nothing is in walking distance. I'm not biking miles through 120 degree heat index to go to the grocery store, and neither is anyone else if they don't have to.
The biggest polluters are big industry. Trying to shift the burden to the average Joe is missing the point.
Besides, your graph there includes shipping and airplanes in the "transport" category, which won't go away if people drive less. If anything, we'll need a *more* robust logistics network to get goods closer to people who don't drive.
@LouisIngenthron @BrentToderian I’m not trying to shift the burden anywhere. Brent’s pointing out that, *with the benefit of hindsight*, the way we’ve allowed car culture to dominate urban design is dumb.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but *not using it* to consider how we might do things differently to confront a rapidly approaching era of brittle energy supply would be obtuse
@LouisIngenthron @urlyman @BrentToderian > in the US, cities were designed around roads, and nothing is in walking distance.
And that's exactly what this post questions. Have you really missed its point *that* badly??
I live in a big city, and I walk 5mins to a shopping mall with a supermarket, there's a couple of small grocery stores and two bicycle shops, numerous doctors, dentists, and apothecaries within 10mins, a cinema within 15mins…—and a whole city reachable by public transport.
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@LouisIngenthron @urlyman @BrentToderian Making cars unnecessary in current suburbs isn't a 10 year project, it's a 100 year project. It takes time to undo nearly a hundred years of car-first infrastructure. The first step is to stop making things worse, and then we can go from there.
Let's say you had that grocery store a block away, what percentage of your car usage could that replace? 5% maybe? If everyone can do that, it's like removing 1 in 20 cars from the road. That's massive.
75 years from now you end I will probably be gone, but whoever lives where you do might be celebrating breaking ground on a new train station or climate controlled bike network or who knows what else. Our responsibility isn't to figure out that stuff now, it's to lay the groundwork so that one day stuff like that is possible.
@BrentToderian That's inefficient to store just one car in that large garage. They could fit in three more, plus add a car lift to double capacity.
The living room also looks like it's in a far corner of the house, and therefore wouldn't be used as often. That's another car storage place too.
@BrentToderian I 100% agree with you on this objectively, but that could be a really cool living room for a car nerd if the car could be kept clean and dry enough!
Not nearly as cool as reducing car dependency though, for sure.
@BrentToderian I'm fascinated by the number of people assuming they can easily repurpose the 'garage' space, here.
Can't use the middle of a highway until you make a new space for a different kind of transportation that hopefully takes up less room.
But where to put it...bulldoze the bathroom? Demolish the dining room? Lose the living room? 🤔