Counter Strike 2 is surprisingly awful on Steam Deck right now

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Counter Strike 2 is surprisingly awful on Steam Deck right now - sh.itjust.works

Are competitive FPSs intended for handhelds?
Maybe, maybe not. But I think people expect a game made by Valve to run on gaming hardware made by Valve, even if it’s only for casual playing.
Well it runs - just not as fast as you want. I personally would never want to play those competitive shooters that need pixel perfect aim on a handheld console… but that’s just me.
Ah yes, I totally expect Nintendo games to play on all their hardware like a 3ds…
The steam deck is their current gen hardware.
Sure, but they also make mobile games, do you expect hose to play on the switch too…?

So you acknowledge your DS comparison was bad?

And no I do not as mobile games and PC’s have different builds and approaches. Stop comparing apples to oranges. Counterstrike is a valve-produced PC shooter that is hardly cutting edge visually. The steam deck is a modern low-mid spec PC. I expect it to play there, especially as it’s their IP. Everything else they make does.

No, a 3ds is a pretty part comparison about a modern pc to a steam deck actually.

Steamdeck is not a “mobile device” the way people typically use it. I know you were going to argue that “it technically is“ or whatever, but that is not what people mean by mobile device. You’re oversimplifying it and you know it. Is a fully functional PC that can also go handheld. It is not a game boy. It is not a DS.

I have played much more visually demanding games on my steam deck at 45 to 60 FPS consistently. Valve dropped the ball, there’s no other way to look at it. So stop putting words in my mouth and over interpreting what I am saying. For instance, I literally never said anything remotely akin to “everything should play on every device.” That is a strawman of your making and an absolutely absurd assertion. Nobody would stand behind that claim.

How is any of that relevant to a company feint able to design games for what they want…?
Now you’re just reaching

Where am I reaching?

I also never put words in your mouth. I’ve used different methods to describe how companies make games for other hardware all the time.

Why should this game be different? Are you going to answer any of my questions or are you just going to continue to deflect with these endless fallacies?

What fallacies? You’re just reaching again. You can’t will a good argument by just insulting me and making things up lol

Later dude. I like valve but simping for them is too much.

In terms of computer power, a Steam Deck is basically a mid-range laptop. Go buy a Dell Inspiron for about the same price and how does It run CS2?
How is that the same? This is a PC game running on a device meant to run PC games. Apples to apples
A severely limited device, like a 3ds compared to a switch even….
I’m glad you’re making it apparent that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Sure you can’t compare it to a two thousand dollar PC with top of the line hardware, but it’s plenty capable, affordable and you can take it anywhere. They’re fucking awesome and have made PC gaming accessible to lots of people

Yes it’s an awesome device and that’s not what was being discussed…

News flash, companies design games for different systems all the time, why should this one game be any different…?

You literally just said it’s a severely limited device, which it definitely isn’t. You’ve just done a complete 180 with your argument.
Compared to modern PCs… my argument hasn’t changed at all.

I think people expect a game made by Valve to run on gaming hardware made by Valve, even if it’s only for casual playing.

Yes. Why else did CSGO get controller and gyro support? While Valve did not promise anything in that regard, there was the expectation that CS2 would basically be fully optimized for Deck. Maybe it will still happen. The “final” release is nothing but an open beta.

To add to this, the expectation is because they basically killed off CSGO for CS2 as an upgrade, so it should have the same and more functionalities.

Yes you can still turn on CSGO from settings but it’s worthless without servers.

Yeah we should be able to play half life Alyx on the steam deck too!!
Sure but they haven’t cared about the state of their games in ages. Iike I’m all for pushing to get them to fix it and all, but think it’s weird that people are surprised. Especially when the vast majority of their focus has been on steam for the last forever
Well, I have seen some very crazy shit with Metroid Prime Hunters for DS.
I play Destiny 2 on my Asus ROG Ally almost daily, and have played lots of PVE and Gambit, but hate Crucible. It’s really powerful, so I think it’s possible to play competitive games on a handheld if you’re comfortable with using a controller. Of course, you can plug it into a monitor and use the XG Mobile to get a decent graphics card. So yeah, I think a handheld can hold up to a gaming PC if you temper your expectations. You’re not going to be playing at 4k, 120 fps, but instead 720p 50-60 fps. Good enough for casual play all the time.
I haven’t played destiny 2 in a long while but isn’t that game far from competitive?
It has competitive modes, but I don’t know how well it would do at tournament play. I’m not a big fan of PVP, but I’m pretty sure the Ally is powerful enough to play most of those games if you lower the graphics to get a nice FPS. I just cited Destiny because it’s what I’ve been playing lately.