Thomas TraynorIf you depend on a third party to handle your IoT device you just own a pricy brick. They can stop at any time, they can change what is supported, they can change the price. It won't change as there is no money in making devices we can run under local control.
OliverUvi mean, there is money to be made just selling products. But not "make-VCs-happy" amounts of money.
Jaime Herazo@thomastraynor
As usual, if it depends on Teh Cloudz, it's not and has never been yours
As usual, if it depends on Teh Cloudz, it's not and has never been yours
Jamie Hamel-Smith@jherazob @thomastraynor there was an interesting conversation in one of the selfhosted lemmy communities that was discussing whether self-hosting in the cloud is still self-hosting… an adjacent conversation but still super interesting.
In the end, they agreed that cloud==bad has more to do with who manages the service and not who owns the hardware.
@thomastraynor not just “smart home devices” anymore either. I was shopping for an elliptical machine last night and most now come with something called iFit.
The majority of the features on the marketing page are iFit features and only work if you subscribe to the $40/mo plan. I had to dig and dig to find what one of these machines would be capable of if you don’t associate it to one of these subscription services.
In the end I bought from a non-iFit manufacturer 🤷🏻♂️
Max Flight@thomastraynor You know what they say: "The S in IOT stands for Security."
(((Jann Gobble)))🏳️🌈@thomastraynor Depends on which company you choose. #Firewalla, for instance, charges enough for the product and makes it w/open source linux and other tools - guaranteeing future ability to hack it if I need to.
#Hubitat? The same.
So, yes, most companies are selling you a pricy brick. SOME good ones sell user-handle-able devices.
Liberty and Justice For All@thomastraynor Me when Google simply disables the Wifi Router I bought from them ><
Olivier Mengué@thomastraynor As a former developer of such a brick I can testimony that the company supporting it (and the cloud infrastructure) can close its door one day without any warning to its customers and no way to take back your data.
sounddrill 
@thomastraynor This is why my next smart home system will use tasmota!
I will also stop using alexas when they pull something like this
Useless little things, I need to repeat thrice in a specific tone to get them to tell me the time...