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Chris Lbs Sep 23, 2023

PSA: #Patreon just announced they're changing their privacy policy to default all of your account info, who you support, etc. to public. You need to go into the settings and disable that. (Check the two toggles at the bottom of the Settings page to off.)

And then send Patreon a nasty letter, because default-open is just a stupid model to begin with, period.

Intention web design Sep 22, 2023

@Crell Thanks, done. What on earth are Patreon thinking?!

sͧb̴ͫƸ̴gͬᵉ Sep 22, 2023

@Crell
I’m atheist af, but JFC.

Kid Mania Sep 22, 2023

@subm3rge @Crell

Or, the more secular...

🤦‍♂️ FFS.

Hey, @vmstan thinking I'm going to ditch P for some other option. But don't fret, I got you.

Michael Stanclift Sep 22, 2023

@User47 we have Kofi too.

Wilhelm Sep 22, 2023

@vmstan @User47 last I checked, everyone you give money to is posted publicly on your Kofi account. There is no way to make those posts private, but you can delete them after the fact.

@Wbud @vmstan Kofi also shares data with Facebook. Ugh! (So did Patreon)

Michael Stanclift Sep 22, 2023

@User47 @Wbud well 💩

Benjamin Loyle Sep 22, 2023

@vmstan @User47 @Wbud Brown paper bags of cash an option?

Michael Stanclift Sep 22, 2023

@bloyle @User47 @Wbud I’ve never published it but we also have the option to take Stripe payments directly.

Bytebro 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 🇬🇱Sep 22, 2023

@Crell Thanks for that heads-up.

Kenny Park Sep 22, 2023

@Crell Done, thanks!

BaconAndPie Sep 22, 2023

@Crell this is stupid indeed!

Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒Sep 22, 2023

@Crell Wow. It is absolutely NO ONE'S business who I choose to support, except the person/project I am supporting.

john r red-horse Sep 22, 2023

I'm looking at my Patreon page, and trying to figure out how to cancel my account.

If anyone in this thread knows how and wouldn't mind informing me, I'd be very grateful.

Feoh Sep 22, 2023

@Crell I can't find anything on this on their site. Please share a link if you have one.

Larry Garfield Sep 22, 2023

@feoh See https://phpc.social/@Crell/111109451839536163

Larry Garfield (@[email protected])

@[email protected] Email I just got from them. Their blog post is here, and of course makes it sound like a good thing: https://news.patreon.com/articles/patreon-all-in-on-community From the email: "Be on by default: You can turn your member profile off by adjusting your community profile setting, which is available on the web now and will be coming to our mobile apps soon. Learn more. If you turn your member profile off, your public profile will still be displayed to fellow community members. Learn more."

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lupus_blackfur Sep 22, 2023

Yet another manifestation of All Your Info Are Belong To Us which is, evidently, the New Tech Normal Business Model...

Yay.

Simon Waldman Sep 22, 2023

@Crell
@kianryan

Suspect that default-open like this may also breach GDPR? Not sure.

kianryan ☑️🐙🏳️‍🌈Sep 22, 2023

@swaldman @Crell Someone somewhere will weasel legitimate use.

Simon Waldman Sep 22, 2023

@kianryan @Crell ah, true

@Crell I got tha email guess I should have read it.
off to fix my settings.

Ben Ramsey Sep 22, 2023

@jarvisscript @Crell Same here!

Gnutella Sep 22, 2023

@Crell better yet - don't use Patreon. Use librapay instead.

Alexander Bochmann Sep 22, 2023

@Crell Reminds me that there's no way to switch a bandcamp account to private - as soon as you have a profile, all purchases will be public.

The only workaround I know of is to buy music without creating an account (sadly I tried to consolidate my purchases paid with Paypal with those paid by credit card at some point).

Pestilence Sep 22, 2023

@Crell
Thanks for the PSA!

"Hi there,

You've recently made a request to erase your data from Patreon. We will send you an email when the request is completed.

Thanks!

P.S.: If you seek to erase your account, please remove all funds from your account immediately."

gauche Sep 22, 2023

@Crell why???

This has been a wild year. Did all the c-suites get together one drunken night and decide to make this the corp wtf moment?

ahimsa Sep 22, 2023

@Crell Thank you! ❤️

I also got an email from Patreon but had not read it yet.

der.hans Sep 22, 2023

@Crell is it mobile app only?

Won't be installing those

Account has semi-random string as display name, unique email address and no connection to other accounts

They still shouldn't be giving my random string information to 3rd parties

Paul van Gulick Sep 22, 2023

@Crell
Thanks for the heads up - just changed settings accordingly.

gigantos Sep 22, 2023

@Crell thank you, found it at the bottom of the account tab.

tootbrute Sep 22, 2023

@Crell does every tech company just blindly follow the enshittification roadmap?

Larry Garfield Sep 23, 2023

@tootbrute Yes.

ClassyT Sep 22, 2023

@Crell I DELETED MY ACCOUNT. SHESH. I HAVE OTHER APPS.

Michael Kohne Sep 22, 2023

@Crell These settings are on the Account tab on your settings page.

Que Sep 23, 2023

@Crell public was off, community was on.

Esme Povirk Sep 23, 2023

@Crell I've had "Full public profile" turned off for a long time because as I understood it, the creators you support have always defaulted to public.

KenBallweg Sep 23, 2023

@Crell @lisamelton thanks for the heads up.

TiaZo Sep 23, 2023

@Crell thank you!

Hell Gate City Sep 23, 2023

@Crell Huh, I don't see this... What's your source? I just see one toggle on the settings page. It says "Private Profile" and it's set to on for both my patron and creator profiles. Which means my pledges will be hidden from the public — how it's always been. The only other thing on that page is my email, which I cropped out. Maybe it's different on desktop?

Hell Gate City Sep 23, 2023

@Crell OK. I found one post that lays a lot of this out. I'm still sorting it. I *think* the newly added public profiles — which seem to be what we would traditionally call a social media profile — are a good option. Are they trying to be discord? IDK. But I agree that if your member profile is currently set to private, it should remain as such until you decide otherwise.

https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/18591059681805

Humble Fan of Atty. Woo Sep 23, 2023

I'm guessing that this only applies to people who have a Patreon site and have subscribers and not the subscribers themselves?

Larry Garfield Sep 23, 2023

@BillMcGuire No, I have just a supporter account and I had to turn those off.

Humble Fan of Atty. Woo Sep 23, 2023

i support one guy, but I checked and couldn't find anywhere in settings info that could be shared except my address.

Mike Taylor 🦕Sep 23, 2023

@Crell *OR* it would have been a fine model to *begin* with, but it's a terrible model to switch people to after they've accepted different terms.

Raven Onthill Sep 23, 2023

@Crell Settings>Account.

sortius Sep 23, 2023

@Crell easier just to delete my account. That's a toe dip in the waters of enshitification

Mori Sep 23, 2023

@Crell What’s their reason for this? Not their comms phaff, but the real reason? Will it help make the website look more engaging to something? Bait-and-switch is the worst

Kamala Kara A 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️Sep 23, 2023

@Crell Oh no, everyone is going to see all the gay porn that I support through paetreon.

This isn't a joke. Thats what's gonna happen.

Intel-Graphy \ - v - /Sep 23, 2023

@Crell Thank you for the warning. The similar thing happened with Discord months ago. It’s alarming that more and more platforms are either defaulting our privacy settings to public, or feeding our data to ML (‘AI’). Scary ASF

Collette Sep 23, 2023

"because default-open is just a stupid model to begin with, period." @Crell comeon that's microsoft's and apple's model you're talking about

Raj 🇬🇧🇪🇺💻🖥(🌻🇺🇦;🇵🇸)Sep 26, 2023

@Crell They go from bad to worse.