接下来要读《埃涅阿斯纪》了...估计能读上一个季度。

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From that noble blood will arise a Trojan Caesar,
his empire bound by the Ocean, his glory by the stars:
Julius, a name passed down from Iulus, his great forebear.

听了podcast之后才知道维吉尔写这首诗是被奥古斯都commission的。知道以后就理解为什么Jove会说这个了。

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Aeneas will wage
a long, costly war in Italy, crush defiant tribes
and build high city walls for his people there
and found the rule of law.

【不知道维吉尔的rule of law现在的是不是一样。当然了大概率不一样毕竟罗马那时候都帝制了。但是读到Jove说要建立法律我还是挺震惊的。

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For awaiting the queen, beneath the great temple now,
exploring its features one by one, amazed at it all,
the city’s splendor, the work of rival workers’ hands
and the vast scale of their labors—all at once he sees,
spread out from first to last, the battles fought at Troy,
the fame of the Trojan War now known throughout the world,
Atreus’ sons and Priam—Achilles, savage to both at once.
Aeneas came to a halt and wept, and “Oh, Achates,”
he cried, “is there anywhere, any place on earth
not filled with our ordeals? There’s Priam, look!
Even here, merit will have its true reward . . .
even here, the world is a world of tears
and the burdens of mortality touch the heart.
Dismiss your fears. Trust me, this fame of ours
will offer us some haven.”

听了podcast才知道Lacrimae rerum("tears of things")经常被单独引用,比如在战争纪念碑上。

上面的英文版是Robert Fagles的译版,Robert Fitzgerald是这么翻译的:

“What spot on earth,”
He said, “what region of the earth, Achatës,
Is not full of the story of our sorrow?
Look, here is Priam. Even so far away
Great valor has due honor; they weep here
For how the world goes, and our life that passes
Touches their hearts.

我仔细一想,虽然埃涅阿斯在看的是朱诺庙里的壁画,但是壁画描绘的是特洛伊战争,不也是一种战争纪念碑吗?
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读了一点Fitzgerald的译版感觉反而他的更好读,开始后悔我当时为什么买Fagles的版本。
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笑死,我感觉维纳斯在儿子身上加持的美貌滤镜可比雅典娜在奥德修斯身上搞的深多了。
为什么一卷有那么长,我要读到猴年马月…
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我居然在维吉尔的诗里读到了Pallas Athena而不是Minerva。

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“That said, he drags the old man
straight to the altar, quaking, slithering on through
slicks of his son’s blood, and twisting Priam’s hair
in his left hand, his right hand sweeping forth his sword—
a flash of steel—he buries it hilt-deep in the king’s flank.
“Such was the fate of Priam, his death, his lot on earth,
with Troy blazing before his eyes, her ramparts down,
the monarch who once had ruled in all his glory
the many lands of Asia, Asia’s many tribes.
A powerful trunk is lying on the shore.
The head wrenched from the shoulders.
A corpse without a name.

Priam之死,维吉尔写特洛伊沦陷这段确实惊心动魄。

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Think: it’s not that beauty, Helen, you should hate,
not even Paris, the man that you should blame, no,
it’s the gods, the ruthless gods who are tearing down
the wealth of Troy, her toppling crown of towers.

没想到维纳斯直接对儿子说不要怨海伦也不要怨帕里斯,怨诸神吧。

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本来想说埃涅阿斯怎么没有回头看妻子,结果他直接跑回陷落的特洛伊。
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我突然有那么一点喜欢埃涅阿斯逃离特洛伊的时候还带着家神这一点,就好像他们离开故土但是带着家的碎片一样。
去看了一眼地图,奥德修斯你花十年走了人家埃涅阿斯一半的路你到底怎么回事【问就是在人家卡吕普索岛上当了7年sex slave
感觉在读一个古希腊/罗马战争难民的移民故事…
讲解说那时候罗马人看希腊就好像现在美国人看欧洲,尤其是英国。政治、军事、经济实力上是无可争议的头把交椅,但是文化上很焦虑。
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维吉尔真是绝了,把《奥德赛》里那些奇奇怪怪的地方全部安进了地图...您写的是荷马史诗同人吧!
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我觉得这不是神谕是闯关攻略吧大哥!哪有神谕这么长这么详细的啊!
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按照维吉尔这个说法,地狱的入口就在爱奥尼亚海中间是吧!
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读到Andromache在埃涅阿斯临行前给他儿子一件自己织的斗篷,说孩子让他想起她和赫克托尔的孩子...
我去查了一下她和赫克托尔的孩子到底怎么了,在众多版本里被扔下特洛伊城墙是出现频率最高的。
另外我也这才知道Orestes杀了阿喀琉斯的儿子,你们父辈的积怨还是传到了儿子这代啊。

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我知道有点套路但是读起来还是心酸:要是Astyanax还活着,他该跟你一样大了

“Andromache grieves no less at our final parting.
She brings out robes shot through with gilded thread
and a Phrygian cloak for Ascanius. Not to be outdone
in kindness, weighing him down with woven gifts
she says: ‘Please take these as well, the work
of my hands, reminders of me to you, dear boy,
and tokens of my love . . .
the love of Hector’s Andromache that never dies.
Take them. The last gifts from your own people.
You are the only image of my Astyanax that’s left.
His eyes, his hands, his features, so like yours—
he would be growing up now, just your age.’