Can we get a solarpunk rival to burning man, where people congregate to permanently upgrade civic infrastructure somewhere instead? Like a convention of hippy nerds going door to door offering to install free insulation, guerilla gardening on empty lots, repairing derelict houses, running volunteer transit, hosting pop-up pay-what-you-can grocers and restaurants.. something that revels in _mattering_ instead of "leaving no trace" (but at exorbitant cost)

Welp, that "Solarpunk Infra Buildathon Festival" notion has blown up, glad to know that resonates with other people and not just me :)

Ye should know that I'm far too Executively Defunct to organise anything resembling this so it's absolutely something one of ye will have to arrange. Pick somewhere in the EU with a no-fly route from Ireland and I might even join in 😅

Freetown Christiania - Wikipedia

@seachaint one of my pals just got back from something like this!

https://solpunk.ukrudt.net/

SOLPUNK

@seachaint an alternate option is maybe an art festival that happens on an illegal dumping ground where people use the trash to build art and garden installations. Not as fun as planting your own stuff in the middle of the city, but it would make for much better outrage if anyone tried to send the police and stop the festivities
@seachaint I'm in. Where do I sign up?
@seachaint love it. we'd be arrested within 3 hours probably 🤣

@seachaint the problem is you need actual qualified and vetted people

Otherwise it's just like mission trips where they spend a bunch of money to fly teens with no skills to Africa to "build houses" which end up busted and terrible when they could have just given that money to locals who know what they're doing

We don't need to bus random volunteers to places to do jobs like this, we need to fund qualified people with skills to do this kind of work in their own neighborhoods. Installing insulation and repairing houses isn't something just anyone should be doing. Even if their heart is in the right place you just get that Ned Flanders house that nobody should actually live in.

@lori @seachaint

This. And the right techniques for some things are regional. If you know how to put a hurricane-resistant roof on a Texas house, you may not know how to put a roof on a Detroit house that would survive a heavy snowfall.

@lori @seachaint It very much depends on the project, if you're doing weed clearing or tree planting then unskilled labour can do it with supervision (but the planning needs to be done to ensure that it's at the right time of year etc).
@lori @seachaint the point of a large scale event is to federate and share ideas. A bunch of volunteers doing renovations and maintenance is never going to be the most efficient way to do that, but it can popularize the idea that these things are important and we should fund them.

@akkavodol @lori @seachaint I think this is key. The point of the event it to show it can be done, so participants then go back into their communities and act locally.

You can talk all you want about how it needs to be local and small. But its not happening. It needs to happen by telling people "hey you can do this and you SHOULD do this."

@lori @seachaint but there are things you can, even with "volunteers." Instead of "leave no trace" its a beach clean up or a park clean up. Or you help people plant native plants instead of invasive species. It's held in a different town every year. Better for the environment than going into a desert and building a city that is just burnt down.
@lori @seachaint *laughs in DIY punk in coastal Louisiana*

@seachaint It's not impossible to do. Churches did many of these things on a continual basis in years past (and probably still do, but I don't know as I'm functionally apostate at this point). There's nothing to say a secular group can't do these things.

For a lot of that it doesn't make sense to have it on a drop-in basis, though. Transit is only really useful if it's reliable on a continual basis rather than being a one-shot thing.

For the things that do make sense on a one-shot basis, some training is needed too.

A requirement for lasting change and contrast to Burning Man seems to be lasting organization, rather than a week of madness.

@seachaint the groups that do this kind of stuff (besides Habitat) are pretty under the radar. There are #mutualAid groups all over - you just have to find them.

When I could afford to donate money to groups I used to support NorCal Resist. They are the #MutualAid group I know about in my area - there may be others. #NorCalResist

https://www.norcalresist.org/programs.html

NorCal Resist - Programs

We offer many core programs for the benefit of the community, including education, anti-repression, food security, and support for immigrants, asylum seekers, and refugees.

NorCal Resist
@seachaint vibes from the European hacker camps are similar, whether CCC, EMF or the Dutch camp
@seachaint Fabulous idea! Currently in US there is one day a year focused on similar activity, National Make A Difference Day, the fourth Saturday in October. Let's expand it!
@seachaint Great idea. Do it. You need a good name that signals the antithesis of Burningman clearly I think.
@seachaint @CandaceRobbAuthor Burning man analog? well.. just what IS burning man that we want to be analogous or anti-analogous to? the fun, the preposterous? the scale? the global reach? ...
@seachaint i have this puzzle all the time. what is this thing where humans like to congregate from very far apart? and what is its function? do i like it?
@barrygoldman1 @seachaint Humanity has been doing seasonal rituals with cross continental travel for thousands of years. See Graeber and Wengrow.

@seachaint

A version of this has been going on in Portland for quite some time.
https://cityrepair.org/

The City Repair Project

The City Repair Project educates and inspires communities and individuals to creatively transform the places where they live.

The City Repair Project
@seachaint Ye could call it Barning Man. Referencing that Amish practice of community barn-building.
@seachaint closest thing to this were some "cleaning raves" in Ukraine where ravers cleaned some war debris while listening to techno
@severak @[email protected]

Wow. That is a rave I would love to go to just once in my life.

Or one day, I would love to bring my setup to Ukraine and play live techno while everyone dance/cleans around me.
@severak @seachaint Don't Mess With the Don does this locally in Toronto. https://www.dontmesswiththedon.ca/
Don't Mess with the Don!

Don't Mess with the Don!

@seachaint

Service instead of self indulgence?

You will not get the private jets landing for that nor the RV convoy.

@beforewisdom *Fist pump gesture that says "success"*
@seachaint like a solarpunk flash mob, only do it local, in your own town

@seachaint
I had the ideas a couple of years ago to go to some isolated run down places, like rural Europe has some candidates.
And help them upgrade an Area/Hackerspace/community house.
Goal is to not rip out all the infrastructure every year, but leave infra and have a somewhat summer camp.

I never really followed up on it.

Basicly places like this exist, like @calafou
https://calafou.org/web/index.php/sobre-calafou
They would be ideal candidates for certain Workshops and to acquire certain skills.

About - Calafou

About. Colonia ecoindustrial postcapitalista

@seachaint you could hijack Rainbow Gathering

@seachaint I love this!

It's like what various groups have done around the world, especially following climate disasters. For instance, a mutual aid group assembled quickly in (so-called) New Orleans (Turtle Island) following Hurricane Katrina. Some friends of mine organized bioremediation there. Others rebuilt homes, etc.

@seachaint lots of local actions, with local being relative to how far ones must travel to meet at a point with other solarpunks 🚲 👣 🚎 🛤️ We can join a common videochat and provide and receive advice and support from distant solarpunk actions. Who knows where that could lead, but i bet it's someplace better than now.
@seachaint @gvwilson may I propose that this be titled “Mattering Out Of Place”

@seachaint

"That we are not together.

That is the greatest lie ever told."
SearingTruth

@seachaint I find myself intrigued by the territory-oriented attempts like https://ecosystemguild.org/ & https://www.ecosystemrestorationcommunities.org/

Dreaming of (solarpunking?) an old van/truck to help with such things

We Must Design The Future - The Ecosystem Guild

How do we respond to freshwater depletion, novel toxins, nutrient pollution, species extinction, soil degradation, deforestation, and climate change? Why do our cultural institutions seem unable to care for the earth? How do we restore our human and cultural relationship to place? We imagine a future where every watershed is known by its inhabitants and

The Ecosystem Guild - Restoring Watersheds Through Community
@seachaint or, I dunno, it could just be done on a community level.
Help your neighbor, donate your time, plant gardens, share veggies, install a wheelchair ramp for someone who needs it. Get your friends together pool resources.
Things don’t need to be grand gestures to be meaningful.
@seachaint oooh what about a Rewilding Festival where we all convene on some fallow field or swathe of new grant land and get local ecologists & indigenous folks on the host committee to tell us what they need to restore the ecosystem that they haven’t had the headcount for. I spent a week pulling up invasive tamarisk trees on the Yampa River once and it was awesome

@seachaint

I approve this message and wish to sign up for your emails newslist. Will buy tickets to this thing as soon as we all decide what it is, when it's happening, and where it's going.

@seachaint I give out free seeds of edible native plants (eastern North America, zone 9-6). Previously, I was just giving it to people locally but this fall I will be distributing to people on here if they want.

Asimina triloba
Diospyros virginiana
Physalis grisea
Boehmeria cylindrica

These are the main ones I distribute but I have others.

@seachaint Oh man. Like Habitat for Humanity but with costumes and hula hoops.

@seachaint we can't even get leftists to wear masks to stop the spread of COVID

we are so far from any of that, as an immunocompromised person, that it's nearly impossible to imagine *because* those are the hard things that should be happening but people won't do the *easy* things right NOW to immediately improve the lives of everyone

@seachaint

This brings back a memory: as a teenager, going to a building which I think was some kind of shelter for homeless people, and repainting the walls of the rooms. A bunch of us all did it, organised by the youth group we were part of. My old cassette deck had paint splats on it for ever after!

@seachaint Hopefully people who know what they're doing for insulation installation so that a year later the person's house doesn't burn down due to faulty wiring near the insulation.
@seachaint A few colleges in the US do The Big Event where 1 day a year college kid volunteers help members of the community with small projects. Anyone in the community can sign up. I did it every year I was in college and I did everything from yard work (raking leaves, weeding, etc) to room painting to cleaning. I always thought of it as a way to thank townies for putting up with college kid antics. It would be cool to see that happen more broadly and with more specialized skills involved.

@seachaint I think something like this is doable but as a series of rolling, local community events .

Make it a goal that something like this is always going on. Have communities log events. Create bottom-to-top-to-bottom communication to relay resources.

@seachaint project manager and agilist here. Would love to teach people basic org skills.