Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron

Op-ed: PC makers used to need to bring their own add-on bloatware—no longer.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/windows-11-has-made-the-clean-windows-install-an-oxymoron/?utm_brand=arstechnica&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social

Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron

Op-ed: PC makers used to need to bring their own add-on bloatware—no longer.

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@arstechnica I'm done with #Windows (and #MacOS). One computer is already on LInux and my laptop is next.

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There are good guides that help you install Windows 11 without all the crap it comes with, and without breaking the system. Here's one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UQZ5oQg8XA&t=459s

But the real solution, and one that is being perfect for me... is to just install Linux, zero enshitification problems here.

I have windows 11 in dual boot only because of work-related things, but man there's no comparison to Linux at all. Much better experience overall, warts and all compared to Windows 11.

The Perfect Windows 11 Install

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@arstechnica To be honest, enshittification of Windows goes back a lot further, although years ago it was more subtle.

Windows 1.x-3.x was bare-bones… it had to be, it was shipped on floppies. 3.11 required 7 1.44MB floppies. It gave you the basics. No OEM license key needed to install. Windows 3.0 introduced the Program Manager, with MS-DOS Executive morphing into the File Manager.

MS and IBM collaborated on OS/2, but when that fell apart, Windows NT began, around 1993. It included more, but was still pretty "basic". It used a "layered" kernel architecture (cross between monolithic and microkernel).

Windows 4.0 (Chicago) started soon after… and in late 1995 to the sound track of "The Rolling Stones - Start Me Up", it was released as Windows 95. It pushed the Microsoft Network (their BBS cum WebTV service) fairly prominently. It also required you enter a license key to install (I still remember two OEM license keys to this day). This OS introduced the concept of the task bar and start menu.

Windows NT 4.0 was released, sporting OpenGL and the same desktop as Windows 95. Some graphics routines were implemented in kernel drivers -- the "layered" architecture is now polluted with UI cruft.

IE 4.0 was released with ActiveDesktop. This was built-in to Windows 98, and also would self-install on Windows 95 rev D if you weren't quick enough to eject the CD after install. ActiveDirectory normalised the idea of using a web browser engine to render the file management windows (Windows Explorer), as well as desktop widgets.

Windows 98 wound up being a QA disaster, and soon was followed up with Windows 98 SE which fixed many flaws.

Microsoft spent so much time refining Windows NT 4.0 into Windows 2000 they forgot about the consumers, so they pushed a hack job called Windows ME. It was a bigger mistake than Windows 98. It was also the last DOS-based Windows release.

Windows XP came out two years later, and aside from the "Luna" UI, was the first to require online activation. It came with IE6 which became the bane of web developers worldwide. The start menu was tweaked to a two-column format (but the old single-column "classic" format was still available).

Windows Vista re-vamped the UI with the Aero interface. The OS was a resource hog and utter flop. This was the last version of Windows to support the "classic" (Win95-esque single-column) start menu.

Windows 7 fixed a lot of issues with Windows Vista but kept its UI. It did drop the classic start menu though -- you now had only the two-column version that XP introduced (unless you installed ClassicShell or similar).

Windows 8 was the touchscreen-oriented disaster that cost Steve Ballmer his job. It very aggressively pushed the concept of the Microsoft Store and Metro^WModern applications. Start menu was replaced with a full-screen launcher. It also did away with the start button.

Windows 8.1 walked back some changes from Windows 8, notably the start button returned.

Windows 10 introduced telemetry monitoring and "Windows as a Service". The telemetry was later backported to 7, 8 and 8.1. It further walked back 8.1's UI, but still heavily pushes Microsoft's store and online services.

Windows 11 is basically a billboard for MS online services now.

@stuartl @arstechnica How much longer until Windows is little more than a thin client for VMs hosted in Azure?

@tk @arstechnica Gaming will be a challenge in that situation.

In fact, using a computer at all will be a challenge if you've got a marginal Internet connection.

@stuartl @arstechnica Tech bros usually don't take that into consideration. 🤷
@arstechnica "Everyone is doing this" sounds like someone who hasn't touched Linux ever in their life.
@arstechnica damn imagine inflicting useless popups on users to make a quick buck.
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@arstechnica windows is the worse OS: it wastes enormous amounts of electricity just to deal with updates. at work my windows 10 is installing new updates every week . last time it sucked my battery dry , I didn't do anything on it , just letting it install shyt,reboot, install new shyt and rereboot...
ok my IT department adds it's own layer of spies and bloatware, but windows has fundamental design flaws. The opposite for my Linux, updates are fast,low resource usage, rarely require rebooting