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sugarsh0t@Bard you’ll still want it to fit at the waist tho
@sugarsh0t That's true. I just get a little confused, because I bought a size up in my first skirt and I need to wear it with a belt.
Doesn't help that all manufacturers size differently...
Doesn't help that all manufacturers size differently...
Rita Hayuni@Bard You do have a regular (skirt) size (e. g. 42/44 european in my case), depending on your personal body measures only, NOT your gender. If people recommend „one size up“, it means that the skirt (or the like) is not produced conforming to the regular/standardized measures of the sizes (but smaller).
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@Bard that you're a nerd [compliment]
Corian@Bard people might also be measuring themselves wrong, make sure to take your measures on waist and hips and compare to their recommended size chart for those measurements. I've been ordering as close to the charts on all I buy, from different brands, and its been perfect, even with narrow hips
@corian That's a good point. I think an advantage of growing up wearing men's trousers is that they're already sized by waist measurement, so if something says it's 34" I can hopefully take that as the size I want.
SarahV@Bard My experience trying to find clothes that fit the same kind of body has been a mixed bag. Sometimes I order on size, sometimes a size up, sometimes it's too big, sometimes it's too small. I return what I can and donate what I can't when they don't fit. I'm told cis women have the same problem. Clothing sizing is a crap chute, even within the same garment and manufacturer and batch. Pretty frustrating, but that trans joy from finding the perfect fit? Worth it!
@admin So frustrating how you have to just try things and see when you're too nervous to buy things in a brick and mortar shop 🙃