myrmepropagandistAug 16, 2023

If the idea of violent protests don't make you at least little scared I wonder how well you know history. At the same time, real change almost never happens without people putting their bodies on the line.

The right understands this far better than your average liberal/moderate. To be a moderate is to trust that existing systems will (mostly) work.

If those systems fail? What then? To even consider this is moderate treason.

(Cartoons by Mattie Lubchansky https://thenib.com/author/mattie-lubchansky/ )

Mattie Lubchansky

Mattie Lubchansky is the Associate Editor of the Nib and a cartoonist and illustrator living in Queens, NY. Their work has appeared in New York Magazine, VICE, Eater, Mad Magazine, Gothamist, The Toast, The Hairpin, Brooklyn Magazine, and their long-running webcomic Please Listen to Me. They are the co-author of Dad Magazine (Quirk, 2016) and the author of the Antifa Supersoldier Cookbook (Silver Sprocket, 2021).

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Show threadmyrmepropagandistAug 16, 2023

It's *not* a good thing that one side has all the guns.

I saw a photo a few days ago. I think it was titled. "Vermont politics" -- in it a scruffy cheerful white man held a gun and a sign. The sign said something like "Respect my trans daughter and my right to bear arms!" (did anyone else see this?)

Some people were annoyed at the guy for being so into guns. I could only think how glad I was for his daughter that he had one.

Show threadllewelly
@futurebird
I think the hard right in the USA is trying to sucker the left into gun fight. And the fact is, however much the right wing militias have a reputation for being poorly trained, it's much better than no training at all, and far more numerous. If the left takes the right's bait on guns, the left will be wiped out.
Aug 16, 2023 at 12:12pmWeb
Show threadmyrmepropagandistAug 16, 2023

@llewelly

Probably true. Maybe.

Show threadllewellyAug 16, 2023
@futurebird
as for the whole personal defense thing, I grew up with a very pro-hunting grandfather, who had an entire wall full of Louis L'amour and other western novels (I read probably a third of them), and at an emotional level, I do grasp why people feel guns are important. But the reality is different: Guns are far more likely to kill a member of the household, than an invader.
Show threadchidi_anagonyeAug 16, 2023

@llewelly @futurebird

That is making some broad assumptions that there are no left leaning military veterans or LEOs that are trained and experienced.