daigennkiAug 14, 2023
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Aug 11, 2023 at 3:42pmWeb
Show threadAdam Trickett  Aug 11, 2023

@sjvn Painfully true...! I talk to a Teddy Bear a lot - not a rubber duck and it's surprisingly effective...!

What I hate are the web pages with the exact same problem I'm facing and either no answer at all, or even worse a comment from someone who fixed an issued but doesn't mention what they did!

Show threadEric CarrollAug 11, 2023
@sjvn
@hugo
Show threadHugo Slabbert ⚠️Aug 11, 2023
@EricCarroll @sjvn Perfect; if rubber duck size is proportional to problem size, this should do me.
Show threadPeter BrettAug 11, 2023
@sjvn Where's "25 minute nap" on this chart, do you think?
Show threadSteven LiptonAug 12, 2023
@krans @sjvn nap can’t be charted unless this had a logarithmic y axis
Show threadembixAug 12, 2023
@krans @sjvn not far from “take a walk”. Getting a good nights sleep would also be in that area.
Show threadTony VladusichAug 12, 2023
@krans @sjvn agree
Show threadSerge DrozAug 11, 2023
@sjvn can confirm
Show threadNibsyAug 12, 2023
@sjvn I feel as though the “Run the same code, hope it magically works now” point should be a bit higher on the y-axis.
Show threadPeter Drake HAS MOVEDAug 12, 2023
@inkynibs @sjvn Definitely true in Unity.
Show threadbmaxvAug 12, 2023

@sjvn running the same code again without changing it is actually very important to make sure it's reproducible. Just because that's the case most of the time, doesn't mean it's not effective at doing showing that.

Otherwise I agree.

Show threadator robotAug 12, 2023
@bmaxv @sjvn I'm terrified of doing that before I've got an idea of what's happening, because I've had too mny bad run-ins where a problem occurs very rarely and I don't know when I will get the chance to investigate it again. It is for this reason I tend to add logging in anticipation, instead of AFTER something goes wrong.
Show threadator robotAug 12, 2023

@sjvn

print("here")

I feel called out 

Show threadChristoph StoettnerAug 12, 2023
@sjvn read docs is way too far to the right
Show threadJared PettinatoAug 12, 2023
@pettinato
Show threadraffitzAug 12, 2023
@sjvn First page of googling has dropped sharply in relevance in the last 5ish years.
Show threadsjvnAug 13, 2023
@raffitz All too, too true. And, it's only going to get worse. :-(
Show threadGavin MorganAug 12, 2023
@sjvn Write... a... test?? Apparently to the left of "Take a Walk."
Show threadSteven LiptonAug 12, 2023
@sjvn I prefer penguins to ducks.
Show threadAndrew FAug 12, 2023
@sjvn I'd rate print("here") higher.
Show threadTony VladusichAug 12, 2023
@sjvn so true!
Show thread💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱Aug 13, 2023
@sjvn
The solution that actually works for you is far more likely to be on the 5th page of Google than the 1st page!
Show threadFloris BruynoogheAug 13, 2023
@sjvn undervalues print-debugging though
Show threadErin McGeeAug 13, 2023
@sjvn @bbamok This IS true.
Show threadWord of Mouth Aug 13, 2023
@sjvn Dammit! "Use breakpoints" LOL guilty
Show threadMaysonLancasterAug 14, 2023
@sjvn A colleague of mine used to find that explaining it to me worked amazingly well, especially when I was asleep.