Alice Averlong🏳️⚧️what?
Return of the Obra Dinn saves your game as .txt files
containing XML
which contain a date and a <data> element that's a base64 encoded string.
that sounds like binary with extra steps
I'm trying to Death Generator this game but Lucas Pope is known for two things:
1. really neat games
2. caching all his rendered text
1. really neat games
2. caching all his rendered text
this means that if a game has a message box that says "Hello World!" and you memory edit it to read "Cat Sauce" and re-trigger the message box, you still see "Hello World!" because it's still caching the rendered text
oh
I was worried this game had dynamic justification
but no, it's just that I can't spell.
there's only two Rs in "terrible"
I was worried this game had dynamic justification
but no, it's just that I can't spell.
there's only two Rs in "terrible"
the good news is that I can quit to the menu and re-load the save and it empties the cache
the bad news is that automating this is not going to be easy. this game has its own mouse controls, meaning I can't use absolution positioning
the bad news is that automating this is not going to be easy. this game has its own mouse controls, meaning I can't use absolution positioning
absolute positioning, I mean.
ahh, there's keyboard controls. so this is doable.
There's still a nasty memory-search in there, but I'll manage
There's still a nasty memory-search in there, but I'll manage
okay got it doing a full reset.
the best part is that if I set it up slightly too slow, it accidentally clicks quit instead of begin, and the game closes, and I have to set up the IDs and pointers again
the best part is that if I set it up slightly too slow, it accidentally clicks quit instead of begin, and the game closes, and I have to set up the IDs and pointers again
I'm not sure I've ever gotten memory searching to work
got it. the problem was, as always, memory protection
well, that didn't last long. I was trying to skip some steps and figure out what unicode regions are supported by this font, and instead it just hung my extractor
I'll just extract all of unicode!
at 11 seconds a character, that'll take about... 19 days?
at 11 seconds a character, that'll take about... 19 days?
there's apparently a timing bug in my script which means that sometimes instead of quitting, it tries to turn down the volume.
this is less than useful
it turned out to be because minecraft was crashing slowly in a multithreaded manner
this is one of the worst ideas for a game to extract to put in the death generator
it has, like, 7 different character sets in it?
it has, like, 7 different character sets in it?
english (plus extra characters because there's some danish and german in there), hindi, traditional chinese, russian, and probably several more I'm forgetting
frankly I'm lucky this game didn't just invent its own conlang and stick the alphabet up in the private use area somewher
also every time it renders text it looks different.
literally every time.
there are randomly missing pixels. this is intentional and part of the game's aesthetic
interesting discovery: although the game is monochrome, the textures aren't. They seem to be mostly red/pink, with some green used.
The monochrome stuff seems to be done in a shader, but I'm wondering if the colors in the textures are being used for some in-game use?
The monochrome stuff seems to be done in a shader, but I'm wondering if the colors in the textures are being used for some in-game use?
oh my god
the carpenter, first mate, and 7th top man have IDENTICAL arm muscles!
LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
it keeps the list of fate-moments in a CSV file. Interesting.
the column headings are:
"id, r, die,pull, music, clear, keep, fog, loc,corpse, skel,shadows,prune,unlock"
the column headings are:
"id, r, die,pull, music, clear, keep, fog, loc,corpse, skel,shadows,prune,unlock"
same for the crew manifest:
"id,,gender,name_unused,shortname_unused,job,birthplace,fate,clue,difficulty,hint,sketch,tally,pay,insurance,category,pic"
"id,,gender,name_unused,shortname_unused,job,birthplace,fate,clue,difficulty,hint,sketch,tally,pay,insurance,category,pic"
{
"key": "fate_parts_fell-rigging",
"val": "Fell/Rigging | $subject | fell from the rigging to <M>his<><F>her<> death."
},
The game has an interesting implementation of gendered-text, one which I'm not a fan of as an enby
I need to write a game engine with a comprehensive pronoun engine one of these days, just to Show How It's Done
OMG! it actually DOES have more than the gender binary! just the final gender is "beast":
{
"key": "fate_parts_eaten-killer",
"val": "Eaten | $subject | was <m>cannibalized<><f>cannibalized<><b>devoured<> | by $killer."
},
I'm Foone B. Turing, and my pronouns are were/wolf
BTW my favorite little detail is at the end, your housekeeper says "Tea’s in the kitchen if you need more." in the good ending, and "Tea’s all gone so you might think about going to bed as well." in the bad ending.
BAD ENDING: NO TEA
Medea Vanamonde🏳️⚧️ ♀@foone
Where/wolf
There/wolf
Playing poker
Harley Quinn smiles at you
Was/wolf
When/wolf
See how they swim
Like things beyond the rim
Where/wolf
There/wolf
Playing poker
Harley Quinn smiles at you
Was/wolf
When/wolf
See how they swim
Like things beyond the rim
The Doctor@foone Don't you mean 'ware/wolf? :)
Caroline Bell 
@foone OK, so your pronouns *were* wolf, but what are your pronouns *now* though.
Cabia Rangris@foone <b>Foone Turing<>
Adam R. Wood@foone I'm reminded of how in Disgaea, there's basically three types of being: humanoid, monster, and Prinny. Prinnies in-universe are somewhere in-between (as souls of former humans in penguin suits) and the game mechanics match this by having some traits of each of the other two. Also, they're basically walking hand grenades.
@foone
Strong and silent
Tuxedomoon - This Beast
Peter Bindels@foone "Going beast mode" as an alias for enby? I kinda like it.
Emma Lexi Triphora@foone I think APICO has a thing that lets you fill in all the different pronoun types
Teh404Gal 
@foone for me its just a:
# Change thr pronouns to your own,
PRONOUN01=she
PRONOUN02=they
PRONOUN03=their
PRONOUN04=Themselves
echo "$Character got $PROUNOUN4 a new cool ahhh flames sword"
Problem solved
# Change thr pronouns to your own,
PRONOUN01=she
PRONOUN02=they
PRONOUN03=their
PRONOUN04=Themselves
echo "$Character got $PROUNOUN4 a new cool ahhh flames sword"
Problem solved
[moved] stereo griever@foone omg yes we need a pronouns/localization library that can insert any pronouns from pronouns.page
Naked Technohippie@foone A truly comprehensive pronoun engine would be extremely interesting, since pronouns can affect other grammar in arbitrary ways. Consider "They are/He is". And one could construct even more advanced pronouns that change disconnected parts of the sentence. You'd either need to have a *very* sophisticated language understander, or have entirely separate text for every gender.
Σ(i³) = (Σi)²@foone [nods] a comprehensive gender engine should be no harder than a comprehensive time zone engine. How hard could it possibly be...
soil_dirt@foone
Can you have characters randomly call me an "enby lookin ass?"
Can you have characters randomly call me an "enby lookin ass?"
TJSomething@foone I've been curious how Chrono Cross did it to handle different formality levels, first person pronouns, and speech quirks.
@foone There's also the absurd complexity of the Earthbound script engine.
Jhynjhiruu@foone I think engines that have comprehensive localisation support would be a good start, since those usually have to deal with things far more bullshit than pronouns (insert "if you think pronouns are confusing, wait until you find out about verbs" meme here)
@Jhynjhiruu this engine is fully localized, actually! This is after the localization step: it has to have dynamic pronoun support because user input influences the text.
Sarah O'Keefe@foone That would also be a PITA to localize.
@sarahokeefe this actually is the localized text. There's a separate file for all the other languages
Ellie
Ame !@foone if i had to guess, the red channel is used for the lightness of the monochrome textures and the green channel is used for emission. blue channel is just a copy of the red channel.
Kawaoneechan@foone I forget what for, but they *are* in fact used for different purposes.
Nicolas Noble 
@foone reflection data for the shader?
Ben Golus@foone yep. Lots of tricks being done to obtain the final 1 bit look of the game.
I believe red channel = the base texture, green = painted in lighting to ensure important parts are visible even if they're fully in shadow.
@bgolus ooh, nice! I had done some searching to see if anyone had figured out what the game looks like without the 1bit/dither shaders, but couldn't find anything
@foone Pope did a dev blog on tigforums in which he detailed how most of it works.
Saphire Lattice@foone @bgolus https://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=40832.msg1363742#msg1363742
A lot of it in the devlog!
@foone And because that gif converted terribly, here's a link to its source.
http://3909.co/dev/od/img/OnePass-FinalAnim.gif
https://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=40832.msg1124342#msg1124342
Catonator@foone Based on some info in the debug menu and the dev diaries, the different colours are used to create visible seams for the edge detection shader on the surfaces without the need for modeling those details
calico liz
KasTas@foone that's.... abuse!
Alesandro Ortiz 🇵🇷🏳️🌈@foone [achievement unlocked]
@foone As someone who did exactly that, where else would you put the damn things?
@kawa my own codepage, of course. Fuck unicode
@kawa I don't see the Felinese
@foone That's the #Asspull3X codepage, not the Felinese conlang.
*This* is the conlang. 👇
@kawa oh I see. Why isn't your conlang in your codepage though?