Leah Berman Williams
addieStop using Brave Browser. https://www.spacebar.news/p/stop-using-brave-browser
Gamey 
@EposVox Damn, I knew about the privacy controvercy and another one not mentioned there because they allow certain trackers to preserve website functionality but a lot of that stuff was new to me! Someone on the internet also tolled me that the CEO is a facist but they didn't seem to know any details and refused to give sources so I didn't take them serious. Guess I will need a new search engine now because I definitely don't want to go back to DDG, the results just suck in comparison!
@EposVox The article could have gone into more detail on Peter Thil tho, that guy by himself is enough to never touch Brave again! I looked him up after he became the new employer of Sebastian Kurz who almost managed to turn Austria into a autocracy and that's under the least supervillain like things Thil did! :(
@EposVox At first glance the subtitles don't seem perfect but not that horrible ether so here is a decent German video about Peter Thil. Be warned tho, it's German political satire so even if the translation isn't too bad it's a very serious topic presented in a comedical way and probably not all of you will be able to laugh about it!
https://piped.video/watch?v=SKY5pOcEn4U&t=69
https://piped.video/watch?v=SKY5pOcEn4U&t=69
Kazii The Avali
Ember's old account -> @@EposVox all the cryptobros were talking about it when this whole dumpster fire took off. So I naturally stayed away from it without looking at what this browser does and doesn't. Glad it was the right choice 👍
kristophr@EposVox interesting article. I use brave but now feel icky about it. I'm also giving Opera GX a go right now and enjoying it.
Sad that we're dealing with "the lesser of evils" when it comes to browsers now.
Thibaultmol 🌈Ren 🐧 (@[email protected])
@[email protected] @[email protected] Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Opera is a Chinese company and is at the whim of the CCP
Janek @ IndieDev.site@EposVox This although the final message should be: use Firefox.
Period.
linuxct@EposVox Is Corbin around the fediverse? They deserve a round of applause for collecting all the info here.
baguettefish@EposVox i enjoy librewolf a lot and it seems like the best of the bunch, next to maybe mullvad's new browser which lives in a similar space with a similar source (both being firefox forks with defaults that are private but also don't reduce usability on the web).
one thing to watch out with librewolf though is that by default it trashes history and cookies with each exit of the browser, and most people probably want to turn that off.
one thing to watch out with librewolf though is that by default it trashes history and cookies with each exit of the browser, and most people probably want to turn that off.
Apicultor 🐝@EposVox Your domain is barely two weeks old. NRDs (Newly-registered domains) are often abused by malware and are blocked many places as a result, including my network.
Maybe let the dust settle before generating traffic?
Tristen Grant@apicultor @EposVox What domain are you talking about?
@tristen @apicultor that’s not my blog lol. I haven’t bought any domains in the last 2 weeks
Saphire Lattice@EposVox I'm also a fan of https://homophobicshitcoinbrowser.com/
KDDLB
sqrt(-1)@EposVox no one ever should consider using this piece of software
nullenvk@EposVox as if associating with cryptobros wasn't enough of a red flag
Bitals@EposVox
I fail to understand how his personal donation has to do anything with his company.
Do I agree with his views? No.
Does he have a legal right to support a political campaign that aligns with his views? Yes.
Did he do anything illegal in this story? No.
Does the product harm anybody in any way, shape or form for their sexual orientation? I haven't heard of such occurrence.
Again, I do not agree with his views, I do not use the Brave browser, but this point specifically triggers me.
gregandcin 
@bitals @EposVox the point is that using Brave contributes to the wealth of the CEO who can then fund more anti-LGBTQ+ shit.
Some people can separate the product from the creator(s), but I for one believe that if I want to make a change, I have to stop supporting projects/companies/whatever that are run by people who's views go against mine and do real damage to the world
@gregandcin
That's valid, but the browser is open source, and there's a way to disable the cryptocrap and other monetization, so you give them nothing.
I consider Brave to be the least awful Chromium browser currently alive, and I personally think that touching a libre product made by a homophobic person without making him any money is way better than gifting my soul to a proprietary product like Vivaldi or Opera, who are faceless and politically support whoever is winning atm.
@EposVox
That's valid, but the browser is open source, and there's a way to disable the cryptocrap and other monetization, so you give them nothing.
I consider Brave to be the least awful Chromium browser currently alive, and I personally think that touching a libre product made by a homophobic person without making him any money is way better than gifting my soul to a proprietary product like Vivaldi or Opera, who are faceless and politically support whoever is winning atm.
@EposVox
@gregandcin
But the best option IMHO is not using a Chromium-based browser, so you do not indirectly support Google's monopoly on the internet, that brings us stuff like the recent web DRM, that actively harms everybody no matter their political views, gender, orientation, food habits etc.
@EposVox
But the best option IMHO is not using a Chromium-based browser, so you do not indirectly support Google's monopoly on the internet, that brings us stuff like the recent web DRM, that actively harms everybody no matter their political views, gender, orientation, food habits etc.
@EposVox
@bitals I personally use Firefox, so I def get it. There are some people who need to use Chromium based stuff because of work and whatnot, which sucks. Either way, do whatever you believe causes the least amount of harm to the world :)
@gregandcin
Just came up with an analogy for my point.
https://downfall.page/
This is a new catastrophic Intel CPU vulnerability discovered by a Google engineer, so he works for a company I strongly dislike.
Boycotting the Brave browser that does not require funding the CEO in favor of using another and proprietary Chromium-based browser for me feels like boycotting the Downfall mitigation because I don't like Google. I am mostly hurting myself and the whole internet crowd security.
HRH ginsterbusch
silhouette@EposVox not that i disagree with the points made in the article but there should be something in there highlighting the technical challenges as well, i.e. keeping up with patches from upstream. It is also not as privacy-preserving as say Librewolf.
doublejay@EposVox needed saying
unexpectedteapot@EposVox goes without saying that using Chromium in any way, shape or form still contributes to Google's bullying and domination of the Web and its standards.
Pepper1700 
@EposVox unfortunately I can only boost once, Imam currently in the process of purging brave from my pc, it was used for niche case Firefox could not handle because I did not know of any alternative, I discovered Vivaldi and I the Brave purge began. Brave is a crypto scam and it will eventually go the way of all crypto scam in the ground. And those defending the CEO love to pretend it was a long time ago, but I honestly thing he is even worse now.
elouan660@pepper1700 @EposVox Vivaldi is a proprietary software, it's not better than brave
@elouan660 @EposVox I do not like the fact it is proprietary, but I trust them way more than brave
@pepper1700 @EposVox You can't trust a software if you can't take a look at the source code. If they enable new telemetries, new google integrations, you can't know it. Big browser is watching you
@elouan660 @EposVox Free software is the goal, but you can't run only free software in the year of our lord 2023. If your computer manage to boot with a debloobed linux kernel, it is because it use the old unpatched unsecure proprietary firmware on your hardware rather than an up to date version. I use Firefox for browsing the web, but for niche case that require a blink browser, there is no reliable open source implementation that I know of.
Nue (old account follow new one)@EposVox I only use Brave on iOS because I have not found another out of the box browser that has working adblock. But overall I prefer Firefox.
@EposVox What should I use? I need a chromium based open-source replacement
Alfa3@elouan660 @EposVox same here....
Jason Walter 🇵🇸@mrwalter @EposVox Vivaldi is not open-source, on there website they're just saying that vivaldi is half open-source because chromium is open-source, and their ui is "source aviable" (wich not mean open-source). This browser is worse than google chrome because it is made to confuse people. An article who say brave is not ethical but recommend a closed-source proprietary sofware instead is not credible.
Tod Maffin 🇨🇦@EposVox Okay then what Chromium browser do you recommend? (Must be chromium for IT work reasons - I don’t get a say).
@tod @EposVox I would say Vivaldi, but as crazy as it sound, if for some obscure reason you need a blink based browser for IT stuff, I would go with Chrome. All other chromium derivative I know of have customisation in their rendering engine. From my experience Brave is less compatible with Chrome than Firefox is.
@pepper1700 @EposVox But I thought Chrome (IE Google’s official Chrome) reports back all your web traffic to Google? That’s part of the reason I went with Brave. Presumably, they stripped that function. Or did I just buy a good marketing line? lol
I found Brave to be very compatible with Chrome, at least in terms of extension compat.
@tod @EposVox I was speaking about web compatibility, extension compatibility wise, most chromium derivative should do the trick, Imwould go with Vivaldi, if you don't mind the fact it is closed source, they are still more ethical and more trustworthy than Brave. Just stay far away from Opera, it might phone home to the CCP.
@pepper1700 @EposVox Thanks -‘I’ll check it out. I enjoyed playing with Arc, but in the end I have too much muscle memory developed for a standard browser workflow.
v1:anarchy:@EposVox then make firefox better and ill switch lol
yuki - queen of the snow
peter kleiweg 🇪🇺@EposVox
In my quest to minimise my dependency on Google and Amazon and the like, I was glad to replace Google Chrome by Brave. Guess I need to start looking again.
What about Chromium?
In my quest to minimise my dependency on Google and Amazon and the like, I was glad to replace Google Chrome by Brave. Guess I need to start looking again.
What about Chromium?
@pebbe @EposVox They've removed every dependencies to google services and configured it to be more private.
You can check out there github for more informations https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium
You can check out there github for more informations https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium
Hydrojohn
Mike 
@EposVox yup. I loved brave but ditched them. The crypto stuff was easy enough to turn off, but they're shady, and now trying to get into selling data for AI training. Nope.
Firefox on everything now