Saviours - lemm.ee

there’s no such thing as true altruism

Yes, but there’s such thing as a class war.

Insightful comments.

Glad the propaganda isn’t affecting people.

I thought people would jump on this anti billionaire post.

But your right, it’s trying to incite class war.

What’s wrong with being anti-billionaire?

If a dragon were hoarding all the gold in your village and leaving the villagers to get fucked, would you be pro-dragon?

(Yeah it’s a Terry Pratchett novel.)

But that’s the point, They’re not hoarding ALL the gold, your point is based in hyperbolie and is ridiculous.

We have a lot in this day and age.

Food, shelter, international travel, computers, cars, global internet etc etc

And making the argument that we have nothing and they have everything is absurd.

There are a lot of people that don’t have that as it becomes harder and harder for the rest of us to have that every day.

I was homeless for 8 years, I went hungry so often that my sense of hunger all but disappeared, the furthest I’ve been from where I was born was 300 miles, I’ve never traveled internationally.

To each according to need, from each according to means.

They’re hoarding the fruits of the labor of the working class, the top 1% have more wealth than the rest of humanity.

The Richest 1% Own Almost Half the World’s Wealth & 9 Other Mind-Blowing Facts on Wealth Inequality

Millions are being pushed further into poverty while the wealthiest profit from a cost-of-living crisis.

Global Citizen
The propaganda worked well with this one

But your right, it’s trying to incite class war.

Ah yes, it is well known that those fighting back against oppression are in fact the ones inciting war!

Daddy Husk isn't going to see you defending him and whisk you away to his castle dear, and you might actually choke if you suck that boot any harder, looks from here like the wannabe edgelord schtick isn't really paying off.. 🤣

Well actually I think it could be the Russians trying to destabilise Western culture.

Or the government trying to distract people from them harvesting our money through taxes.

Or just to upset people.

You say people are fighting back, what exactly have they achieved?

Other than telling people to go and suck on boots LOL

Just like how Ukraine incited the new war with Russia by checks notes… by…existing?
Oh come now, there’s far more nuance to it than that. They incited the war by discovering oil inside their borders
Well by considering joining NATO and therefore having Europe’s armies at their door.
Explain please

Yes please tell me how a country minding its own business deserved to be invaded by a hostile nation and civilians killed because of Putin’s choice. Please do explain how to justify this. Also please explain what it has to do with NATO, which wouldn’t have to exist to begin with if Russia didn’t do shit like this.

Does warning to join NATO justify invading and killing Ukranians in your world?

Because it’s provocation.

You’re blinded by Western brainwashing.

If someone builds an army in your door step. It’s hostile.

It’s not that hard to understand

Just out of curiosity, does billionaire dick taste like push pop, or fun dip, or maybe rocket pops?
Lol, u think a lot about dick don’t you?
Horseshit. A few thousand billionaires doesn’t constitute a “class” in a world of billions of people. That’s not a matter of “class,” it’s a fucking oligarchy.

It’s a rich Vs the poor trope.

So it’s not horseshit you dumb fuck.

It’s trying to incite hate and disillusionment in society.

Billionaires create many things millions use. Just because they have a lot of money didn’t make them intrinsically bad.

I do not hate billionaires for being billionaires. But I’m against a system that unjustly and inefficiently concentrates wealth in the hands of fewer and fewer people while basic necessities such as housing become unaffordable because the beneficiaries of that system are turning it into an investment through which extract more wealth from the people below themselves.

Billionaires create many things millions use. Just because they have a lot of money didn’t make them intrinsically bad.

To illustrate how bad this argument is. Middle Ages nobles made contributions to society in the form of collecting taxes, managing land and organizing armies. That doesn’t mean that feudalism isn’t a bollocks system nor that you shouldn’t come up with ways of collecting taxes, managing land and organizing armies that don’t incentivize privilege and corruption.

I agree that concentrated wealth isn’t an efficient distribution.

So what can we do, 100% taxes over a million?

What’s the incentive then to work harder if you earn over a million?

If you’re are literally working so hard that you’re 100 times more productive than someone earning minimum wage, take a vacation. If you don’t want to, it’s clear that money isn’t what motivates you the most when you choose to continue working.

Of course, you must be really ignorant to believe that people earn 100 times more than someone earning minimum wage because they’re 100 times more productive. Your capacity to produce is not the same as your capacity to earn money.

But that’s the point, you’re spray taking 100 types the risk when starting a business.

That’s what’s greenbelt not taken into account.

The start up costs, the risk involved, the investment capital.

The owners of the business hold all this risk so they should receive the reward as well.

50% of business don’t survive the first five years.

Billionaires paying the same tax rate as high paying professionals is just fine. And no tax evasion using non-profit facades.

Are your responses like paid for? This is some desperate rich person ass kissing on display.

There is no way you are sitting there, affected by what rich people have done and believing they are a benefit.

Billionaires supply most of what we have today.

They’re entrepreneurs of business.

They make money because people give it to them for things they want.

They have so much money because they give people a lot of what they need/want.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that in your dreams.
Billionaires didn’t create them. Engineers and scientists did, and we don’t even know their names in the news while billionaires take credit.

If you create something you can patent it.

The billionaires didn’t automatically own it.

@Internetexplorer @TwoGems

I mean, unless you were working for them when you were making the thing; then they use your contract to control the patent.

Yeah if you are to that contact, then that’s the contract.

Don’t work for them if they automatically own your work.

There is a choice

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Not as long as you acknowledge that you also don’t matter
  • People say that because they don’t know what it feels like. Basically, they’re projecting

  • Technically one can argue fairly that it doesn’t exist, but that argument would be about semantics. Doing something good for others at the expense of yourself either because it feels good to do or because somewhere in your brain you think there will be good karma or celestial reward, well… maybe those aren’t truly “altruism”, but can anybody tell the goddamned difference?

  • This is just the truth, where’s the meme?
    But memes are inherently just political cartoons…
    We’re at the stage in humor where instead of telling jokes, we’re conditioning ourselves to laugh at an increasingly horrifying reality.
    Why is our society full of people who talk like supervillains?
    It’s the reverse, actually. Story writers modeled super villains after these people.
    And they modeled their heroes on their crocked world view.
    True of Hollywood drek. Not of literature in general.

    True. Success in Hollywood requires a certain personality type that heavily favors liberalism. The rags to riches ones suddenly believe that all it takes is talent and can’t cope with the reality that luck was a major factor in their success and that they could never be in the gutter again.

    If we’re bringing up literature though, the first Harry Potter book was ok, but certain personality traits of the author started getting amplified with her Rock Star like success. Harry was much more charitable in the first book compared later ones.

    To be fair, if I was a billionaire and I had the choice of helping ordinary people or doing something awesome, I would definitely pick to do something awesome. I respect Bill Gates for fighting malaria, but I would go for spaceships or robots.
    But if it’s something awesome marketed towards saving humanity then do something actually awesome and impactful instead of distracting bullshit like hyperloops and Mars colonies on unrealistic time-frames and self-driving cars instead of public transportation. Endless talk and grand gestures when these people have the resources to really drive improvements/innovations in achievable realistic projects.
    Mars colony is better than helping some poor souls.
    Are you, like, 12? >:C
    And how are you helping
    By going into work sick so that I can reducey workplace’s carbon emissions for a few days
    Virtue signalling moron
    Lol it’s not virtue signaling it’s malicious compliance. My workplace has vacation and sick days pull from the same incredibly small pool. They’re also very anti work from home. So since I’ve explained the problem and was told to just take vacation time when I’m sick, I decided to just not “be sick” and explain the problem when it comes up next
    Which is why not you, nor them should have so much money. We need to prevent idiots from doing idiot things by redistributing their wealth.
    Then everyone will be poor and the civilization will collapse.
    Oh yeah, cause society totally collapsed in the 1960s when wealth distribution was far more fair than today.
    Also, the Indigenous peoples in North America did really well with no concept of money until the Europeans came. Some Indigenous communities have lower life expectancy today than was estimated to be before colonization.
    Really well? Oh lol…

    Well, sorta… from wikipedia:

    On the east coast of North America, Indigenous peoples of the Iroquois Confederacy and Algonquian tribes, such as the Shinnecock tribe, ground beads called wampum, which were cut from the purple part of the shell of the marine bivalve Mercenaria mercenaria, more commonly known as the hard clam or quahog.[2] White beads were cut from the white part of the quahog or whelk shells. Iroquois peoples strung these shells on string in lengths, or wove them in belts.

    The shell most valued by the Native American tribes of the Pacific Coast from Alaska to northwest California was Dentalium, one of several species of tusk shell or scaphopod.[citation needed] The tusk shell is naturally open at both ends, and can easily be strung on a thread. This shell money was valued by its length rather than the exact number of shells; the “ligua”, the highest denomination in their currency, was a length of about 6 inches.[citation needed]